Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by jsarno

100% correct! Great post!
My friend tried to compare cocaine to weed saying the ingrediants for weed have been put on this earth from God and cocaine is bad. But I had the same argument...weed is untouched...unmolested. All those other drugs are not.

What about shrooms? Or peyote? Or any other "natural" psychedelic? I'm pretty sure we don't want people driving their VW buses around town licking toads and have the cops powerless to do anything about it.

[Schneed10]

I'm of the mindset that smoking should be illegal because I hate the smell, marijuana should be illegal because I hate how retarded people's behavior becomes, but booze should be legal because I love beer.

Make marijuana legal for all I care, but it wouldn't change my opinion of it. Smoking that sh*t is a stupid thing to do - it has medicinal properties for people with eye problems, but while they're getting their eyes healthier, they're absolutely slaughtering their lungs just like with cigarrettes. If you don't have eye problems, then it has no medicinal benefits for you, and you might as well just be taking a blowtorch to your lungs every day.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm of the mindset that smoking should be illegal because I hate the smell, marijuana should be illegal because I hate how retarded people's behavior becomes, but booze should be legal because I love beer.

Make marijuana legal for all I care, but it wouldn't change my opinion of it. Smoking that sh*t is a stupid thing to do - it has medicinal properties for people with eye problems, but while they're getting their eyes healthier, they're absolutely slaughtering their lungs just like with cigarrettes. If you don't have eye problems, then it has no medicinal benefits for you, and you might as well just be taking a blowtorch to your lungs every day.

Actually, this article shows that a recent study could not link pot to lung cancer.

Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection

If we want to talk about retarded behavior, personally I find drunks to be much more annoying than stoners. A stoner is going to laugh at stupid shit and want to eat everything in the house, while a drunk gets violent, obnoxious, or pukes and pisses wherever he or she pleases.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Actually, this article shows that a recent study could not link pot to lung cancer.

Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection

If we want to talk about retarded behavior, personally I find drunks to be much more annoying than stoners. A stoner is going to laugh at stupid shit and want to eat everything in the house, while a drunk gets violent, obnoxious, or pukes and pisses wherever he or she pleases.

That study excluded anyone older than 60 because "those older than that were generally not exposed to marijuana in their youth, when it is most often tried."

I don't know about you guys, but both of my grandmothers smoked all of their lives and were diagnosed with lung cancer when they were in their 80s. If you're going to get lung cancer, whether it be from smoking pot or from smoking tobacco, it's generally going to happen in later years.

This is the only study that has found results like this. If other studies begin to say the same thing, then I'll become a believer. But it doesn't make a ton of sense given that there are a lot more of the same harmful chemicals in weed that are in cigarrette tar.

Besides, cancer isn't the only negative effect from smoking things. Emphesema (sp?) might be worse. It certainly results in a more uncomfortable death.

I just don't get how people can breathe smoke into themselves. It's just beyond me, but that's a personal thing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I just don't get how people can breathe smoke into themselves. It's just beyond me, but that's a personal thing.

Just inhale!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I don't smoke weed, and get drunk often. I'd say though, that I STRONGLY prefer people who smoke up over drunks.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I don't smoke weed, and get drunk often. I'd say though, that I STRONGLY prefer people who smoke up over drunks.

Boozin' is a social thing. If you're wasted and your buddies are wasted, everything is cool. But if you're sober and you're buddies are wasted, nothing is more annoying.

[MTK]

Amsterdam must be a stoner's paradise... anyone ever been there?

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Amsterdam must be a stoner's paradise... anyone ever been there?

My Best friends went there, and they told me it was amazing. Apparently, as soon as you step out the airport, the air just has a weed smell. Coffee shops have all kinds of weed, purple haze, blueberry, white widow, etc. They also sell shrooms there too. They come in boxes marked from 1-10, 10 being the strongest.

They also went to the Red-light District, one of the guys had alot of fun there . Also the whole peep show thing is true, they have them everywhere.

I know you all think they are probably making up parts of their story, and they might have embelished to an extent. But I can personally vouch for the weed there not making you tired. How you ask? Let's just say they brought back presents....

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by hooskins

My Best friends went there, and they told me it was amazing. Apparently, as soon as you step out the airport, the air just has a weed smell. Coffee shops have all kinds of weed, purple haze, blueberry, white widow, etc. They also sell shrooms there too. They come in boxes marked from 1-10, 10 being the strongest.

They also went to the Red-light District, one of the guys had alot of fun there . Also the whole peep show thing is true, they have them everywhere.

I know you all think they are probably making up parts of their story, and they might have embelished to an extent. But I can personally vouch for the weed there not making you tired. How you ask? Let's just say they brought back presents....

After that did they take a train to Eastern Europe where one by one they were kidnapped? Did any of them lose an eye to a blow torch?

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

After that did they take a train to Eastern Europe where one by one they were kidnapped? Did any of them lose an eye to a blow torch?

Ah I knew there would be one lol. I mean these are my best buds, and other people who have gone there told me about the coffee shops as well...And remember, I can assure you, that the weed there does not burn you out...


Actually I have seen pics of the coffee shops, inside them as well. Plus they were smoking outside, in public. Seems really chill...

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Let's just say they brought back presents....

How did they get the presents through customs?

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Amsterdam must be a stoner's paradise... anyone ever been there?

Interestingly enough, the best coffee shop I visited in Amsterdam is owned by a pair of Americans from Delaware... it's called the "Grey Area." It's got a real American stoner vibe to it, being one of a few shops with actual house bongs... plus they sell their stuff in US weight, while everyone else uses the metric system. I also played (what seemed like) the longest game of chess here too.

The red light district was super clean, much like the rest of the city. I guess it's regulated by the government, so it has to be pretty legit. Walking through it, some of the girls are kinda flirty aggressive- they'll just tap the windows and smile at you... whereas I've heard stories about the third world girls being just in your face aggressive cuz they need the money. We stayed clear, just b/c the idea is still kinda foreign to us.

While I expected the city to be kind of like a party central, Amsterdam had a real calm and conservative vibe to it. The citizens just went about their business and the buildings and cobblestone streets reflected a historic atmosphere. Although I heard stories of being able to ask a cop for a light, I learned it's really not polite to smoke outside in public... I noticed a group of people leaving the area around me the first and only time I tried it.

Oh yeah, for anyone thinking of visiting: beware of the space cakes and shakes... the stuff is pretty strong. I ate a space cake in one shop and kind of lost my motor abilities to walk (or so my brain told me). And then I got munchies and proceeded to eat more cakes, forgetting that they weren't normal baked goods... those were the days...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Very true. I also prefer people drink beer. There's always the guys who want to drink shots of Wild Turkey or Beam and then fight people.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Very true. I also prefer people drink beer. There's always the guys who want to drink shots of Wild Turkey or Beam and then fight people.

Agreed. I can understand wanting to do shots once you've gotten a number of beers in your system. You're a little tipsy and you think hey let's do some shots, that's a great idea. You don't stop to think about the anger and the puking that will surely ensue.

But being sober and choosing to just up and start doing shots is nuts (doing shots to get drunk that is, sometimes you hit up the Jack on the rocks just because you like it, and that's alright cause you don't guzzle it). As a sober person, you're in your right mind, I don't know why you'd choose to guzzle shots from the get-go and make yourself angry and pukey.