Theismann made a great point during MNF.

skinsfan69 · 11-02-2006, 12:59 AM

Not so much deep pass, just pass more on first down. OR get in shotgun on first down and run. Keep the defense on it's heels. Have you ever seen the Skins in shotgun on 1ST DOWN? Nope. Only on 3rd and long. That is predictable offense. This is what makes Ken W. such a great O-coordinator. He keeps the defense off balance. New England does a great job of this as well. I know they have Brady, but some of the passes he makes, any QB can make. Yes he has talent and sees the field but his 31 year old o-coordinator puts him in good situations to make those plays.

The Zimmermans · 11-01-2006, 11:15 AM

i've never thought brunell was the guy at any moment at any point in time.....quote me on that. Brunell is the reason we couldnt make a superbowl run last year, that is all.

SmootSmack · 11-01-2006, 04:45 PM

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i've never thought brunell was the guy at any moment at any point in time.....quote me on that. Brunell is the reason we couldnt make a superbowl run last year, that is all.

It would have made sense to quote you on that had you said it in 2004 when we signed him. Or had we heard you say it.

skins052bgr8 · 11-01-2006, 08:49 PM

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i've never thought brunell was the guy at any moment at any point in time.....quote me on that. Brunell is the reason we couldnt make a superbowl run last year, that is all.

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i thought it was a good signing at the time, but then I saw Brunell play for us and I knew right away that he wasnt the guy...............couldnt believe it when gibbs brought him back after that 6-10 season. We've been through this all before when ramsey was his backup (and was better than brunell) any backup of brunell's is better than him.
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i thought it was a good signing at the time, but then I saw Brunell play for us and I knew right away that he wasnt the guy...............couldnt believe it when gibbs brought him back after that 6-10 season. We've been through this all before when ramsey was his backup (and was better than brunell) any backup of brunell's is better than him.
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Well played

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i thought it was a good signing at the time, but then I saw Brunell play for us and I knew right away that he wasnt the guy...............couldnt believe it when gibbs brought him back after that 6-10 season. We've been through this all before when ramsey was his backup (and was better than brunell) any backup of brunell's is better than him.
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You seem to be pretending you made a point, still never said I liked brunell, try to prove points that are points

skinsfan69 · 11-02-2006, 12:00 AM

Bottom line is Gibbs has not adjusted to today's NFL.

dmek25 · 11-02-2006, 06:01 AM

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Bottom line is Gibbs has not adjusted to today's NFL.

i dont know if i should reply to this assnine staement. you were probably the same guy lauding coach gibbs after the skins won 5 in a row, and made the playoffs. and kissing his feet after the skins beat tampa in the playoffs. right now, coach gibbs DOES NOT call the plays. and al saunders has been in the nfl forever. i think its more of a case of the offense and the offensive coordinator still feeling each other out( insert joke here)

skinsfan69 · 11-02-2006, 01:04 PM

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i dont know if i should reply to this assnine staement. you were probably the same guy lauding coach gibbs after the skins won 5 in a row, and made the playoffs. and kissing his feet after the skins beat tampa in the playoffs. right now, coach gibbs DOES NOT call the plays. and al saunders has been in the nfl forever. i think its more of a case of the offense and the offensive coordinator still feeling each other out( insert joke here)

WRONG!!!!!! I was actually about to throw my remote through the screen during the Tampa game. That was one of the most awful game plans I have ever seen. How can an NFL playoff team have 41 yards passing? Brunell takes some of that but the play calling needed to be more aggresive. If you can remember the offense played HORRIBLE during that 5 game stretch in some of those games and needed the defense to pull it out. Yes the offese played well against Dallas and NY but remember Arizona, Philly and St louis? Plus two awful playff games???? Do you have a clue what your talking about? That is why he brough in Sanders becasue his offense stunk when it mattered the most. Yes Gibbs does not call the plays but I'm sure he has his prints all over the game plan. I don't EVER remembering Saunders running this type of offense in KC. Brunell can make passes down the field. It just needs to be when the defense isn't expecting it. MORE PASSES ON 1ST DOWN.

dmek25 · 11-02-2006, 01:35 PM

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WRONG!!!!!! I was actually about to throw my remote through the screen during the Tampa game. That was one of the most awful game plans I have ever seen. How can an NFL playoff team have 41 yards passing? Brunell takes some of that but the play calling needed to be more aggresive. If you can remember the offense played HORRIBLE during that 5 game stretch in some of those games and needed the defense to pull it out. Yes the offese played well against Dallas and NY but remember Arizona, Philly and St louis? Plus two awful playff games???? Do you have a clue what your talking about? That is why he brough in Sanders becasue his offense stunk when it mattered the most. Yes Gibbs does not call the plays but I'm sure he has his prints all over the game plan. I don't EVER remembering Saunders running this type of offense in KC. Brunell can make passes down the field. It just needs to be when the defense isn't expecting it. MORE PASSES ON 1ST DOWN.

i might not have a clue, but one thing i do know is that last year the redskins won 10 games, and a playoff game with Joe Gibbs as offensive coordinator. and Mark brunell as qback. i guess that means maybe Mr Saunders is the one that has to adapt rather then the other way around

SmootSmack · 11-02-2006, 12:03 AM

Today's NFL defending champion is the Pittsburgh Steelers, who (along with several other teams) have a style that is very similar, if not identical, to Gibbs'

skinsfan69 · 11-02-2006, 12:06 AM

I have to disagree with you. Pittsburgh opened up the offense all through the playoff run.

SmootSmack · 11-02-2006, 12:25 AM

"Coordinator Ken Whisenhunt, who played for Joe Gibbs for two years as a backup tight end in Washington, could be the next head coach if Cowher leaves. He obviously paid close attention; the offense he runs is a Gibbs-like system that can utilize the power running game and the deep pass with equal success."

FOX Sports - NFL - Coaches rankings: Redskins stockpiling talent

Now I know you and/or someone else will say "deep pass, what deep pass" but this isn't about Brunell or Campbell or Gibbs or Saunders. It's about whether Gibbs' system works. And I think it does. Best examples are in Pitt and Carolina

SmootSmack · 11-02-2006, 09:59 AM

You said you thought it was a good signing at the time. Then you said "I never thought Brunell was the guy at any time...quote me on that"

So what did you mean?

The Zimmermans · 11-02-2006, 10:03 AM

I thought we needed a QB, but I saw him play for the skins and he never showed anything promising. 3 seasons, the entire time ive wanted him benched. the whole point was that during our 10-6 run, I still didnt feel he was capable of winning a superbowl. I like his attitude, he's a standup guy, but hasnt showed the talent and composure that he did in Jacksonville.

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skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Theismann made a great point during MNF. Not so much deep pass, just pass more on first down. OR get in shotgun on first down and run. Keep the defense on it's heels. Have you ever seen the Skins in shotgun on 1ST DOWN? Nope. Only on 3rd and long. That is predictable offense. This is what makes Ken W. such a great O-coordinator. He keeps the defense off balance. New England does a great job of this as well. I know they have Brady, but some of the passes he makes, any QB can make. Yes he has talent and sees the field but his 31 year old o-coordinator puts him in good situations to make those plays.

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The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: Theismann made a great point during MNF. i've never thought brunell was the guy at any moment at any point in time.....quote me on that. Brunell is the reason we couldnt make a superbowl run last year, that is all. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

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skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Theismann made a great point during MNF. Bottom line is Gibbs has not adjusted to today's NFL.

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SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Theismann made a great point during MNF. Today's NFL defending champion is the Pittsburgh Steelers, who (along with several other teams) have a style that is very similar, if not identical, to Gibbs' __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Theismann made a great point during MNF. I have to disagree with you. Pittsburgh opened up the offense all through the playoff run.

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SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Theismann made a great point during MNF. "Coordinator Ken Whisenhunt, who played for Joe Gibbs for two years as a backup tight end in Washington, could be the next head coach if Cowher leaves. He obviously paid close attention; the offense he runs is a Gibbs-like system that can utilize the power running game and the deep pass with equal success." FOX Sports - NFL - Coaches rankings: Redskins stockpiling talent Now I know you and/or someone else will say "deep pass, what deep pass" but this isn't about Brunell or Campbell or Gibbs or Saunders. It's about whether Gibbs' system works. And I think it does. Best examples are in Pitt and Carolina __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Theismann made a great point during MNF. You said you thought it was a good signing at the time. Then you said "I never thought Brunell was the guy at any time...quote me on that" So what did you mean? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: Theismann made a great point during MNF. I thought we needed a QB, but I saw him play for the skins and he never showed anything promising. 3 seasons, the entire time ive wanted him benched. the whole point was that during our 10-6 run, I still didnt feel he was capable of winning a superbowl. I like his attitude, he's a standup guy, but hasnt showed the talent and composure that he did in Jacksonville. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

Theismann made a great point during MNF.

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