Jansen's Future in Doubt?

[GTripp0012]

This seems like an immediate cap relief move more than anything. Looks like we will save ~3 million for this year. Still, this could just be a move to soften the blow of losing Dockery, should it come to that.

I don't like the idea of paying a guy who had a subpar season with multiple years left on his deal, but if the alternative was to cut him, I agree with the road they've taken.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This seems like an immediate cap relief move more than anything. Looks like we will save ~3 million for this year. Still, this could just be a move to soften the blow of losing Dockery, should it come to that.

I don't like the idea of paying a guy who had a subpar season with multiple years left on his deal, but if the alternative was to cut him, I agree with the road they've taken.

If they choose Jansen over Dockery the front office is even more pathetic then I thought.

[wolfeskins]

thats a good move. i'm glad he wants to stay and i'm glad that the skins gave him a good deal. i wonder how much money this move saves the on the skins cap ?

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

lets hope this trend continues (dockery)

[SkinEmAll]

How many sacks did jansen give up this year? I know he didnt have a pro bowl season, but he will probaly be more comfortable next season and do even better.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

How many sacks did jansen give up this year? I know he didnt have a pro bowl season, but he will probaly be more comfortable next season and do even better.

I can remember both bookends having bad games but statistically the line was one of the best even with Rex or Mark (whatever his name is) starting all of those games.

[Schneed10]

This move likely frees approximately $3.5 million in salary cap space for 2007. Dockery's 2007 cap number, when signed, will likely come in under $3.5 million against the cap.

It appears that the team may have been hesitant to finalize a deal with Dockery until they had an agreement with Jansen to clear cap space. Jansen was the first domino in the line, Dock should be next.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This move likely frees approximately $3.5 million in salary cap space for 2007. Dockery's 2007 cap number, when signed, will likely come in under $3.5 million against the cap.

It appears that the team may have been hesitant to finalize a deal with Dockery until they had an agreement with Jansen to clear cap space. Jansen was the first domino in the line, Dock should be next.

That move showed commitment to the team. He basically took a paycut (of course he will get more guaranteed money but still).

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

That move showed commitment to the team. He basically took a paycut (of course he will get more guaranteed money but still).

No, definitely not a paycut. I don't know why you're saying that?

He was due just over $8 million in base salary over 2007 and 2008. I haven't seen the terms, but my guess is his signing bonus with this extension will be in that range ($8 million or so). He'll then have vet minimum salaries for the first two or three years, and then the contract will be largely backloaded.

It's probably one of those 5 year deals that are only supposed to last 3 years before they're either restructured or he's let go. But it's definitely not a paycut.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

No, definitely not a paycut. I don't know why you're saying that?

He was due just over $8 million in base salary over 2007 and 2008. I haven't seen the terms, but my guess is his signing bonus with this extension will be in that range ($8 million or so). He'll then have vet minimum salaries for the first two or three years, and then the contract will be largely backloaded.

It's probably one of those 5 year deals that are only supposed to last 3 years before they're either restructured or he's let go. But it's definitely not a paycut.

His current deal was due to pay him 4.25 and 4.75 in salary for 07 and 08. His cap number was 5.85 and 6.35 respectively. The new deal averages 4.4 and I would suspect that it is a typical large bonus/backloaded deal so he will never see the big salaries in the contract. I have no idea what the numbers are but I would expect a salary of 1 or two million for the first two years so he did take a paycut from a salary perspective.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

His current deal was due to pay him 4.25 and 4.75 in salary for 07 and 08. His cap number was 5.85 and 6.35 respectively. The new deal averages 4.4 and I would suspect that it is a typical large bonus/backloaded deal so he will never see the big salaries in the contract. I have no idea what the numbers are but I would expect a salary of 1 or two million for the first two years so he did take a paycut from a salary perspective.

That's the whole point of an extension/restructure - Lower the salary (which is the hard number directly applicable to the cap) by converting it to signing bonus. As Schneed said, he is probably getting vet minimum these first couple years. To say he is taking a "pay cut" by restructuring and refering only to the salary is akin to saying that, because the sun is out, there will be light. Or, in a more simplistic response - Duhhh!!

In fact, if this had been a straight restructure, his "salary" would have been cut by about 3 million as that would have been converted to bonus money and the bonus money then prorated over the remaining contract period. By signing the extension, however, the bonus money gets prorated over a longer period then if he done a straight restructure. Under the straight restructure, and w/out looking a the cap sheets, I expect their would not have been much cap relief.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This move likely frees approximately $3.5 million in salary cap space for 2007. Dockery's 2007 cap number, when signed, will likely come in under $3.5 million against the cap.

It appears that the team may have been hesitant to finalize a deal with Dockery until they had an agreement with Jansen to clear cap space. Jansen was the first domino in the line, Dock should be next.

Yeah sounds pretty logical to me.

[skinsfan_nn]

Great move! Jansen seamed to really pick it up in the second half of the season. Retaining John on the O line is a great move, he's a proven leader on and off the field. Let's keep the trend of holding on to "CORE REDSKINS"....not pickin up another overpriced free agent, that turns out to be another boat anchor.

[Pocket$ $traight]

I wonder if they are betting that the Rock retires before the last year. I am curious to see what the last two years look like in this deal.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Just heard Jansen restructered(sp) for 5 or 7 years 23 Mil....the numbers may be a little off but it was on 910 Sports Radio bout 2 hours ago!

HTTR!