Rank our OLine among the 32 teams

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

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Pro Football Prospectus?

[MTK]

On 3rd and short you also have to consider who's running the ball. Sometimes a back has to make something out of nothing. Neither Portis or Betts have been overly impressive in those situations.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

On 3rd and short you also have to consider who's running the ball. Sometimes a back has to make something out of nothing. Neither Portis or Betts have been overly impressive in those situations.

Very good point, although a 30th out of 32 ranking suggests a consistent and decisive inability to run in short yardage situations, as to mean someone needs to be replaced. Do you suggest replacing Portis in short yardage situations?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Very good point, although a 30th out of 32 ranking suggests a consistent and decisive inability to run in short yardage situations, as to mean someone needs to be replaced. Do you suggest replacing Portis in short yardage situations?

Ok this is how I do it. In run blocking I would put us at number 3 behind the Chiefs and Chargers. (Since will shields retired from the chiefs we could bump to number 2.)

In pass blocking I put us at 4. So in total I put us at the number 3 offensive line in the league. Behind Indy and Kansas City.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Very good point, although a 30th out of 32 ranking suggests a consistent and decisive inability to run in short yardage situations, as to mean someone needs to be replaced. Do you suggest replacing Portis in short yardage situations?

Maybe, we saw Sellers get a few short yardage carries last year, perhaps we'll see more of that this year.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Maybe, we saw Sellers get a few short yardage carries last year, perhaps we'll see more of that this year.

If not Portis Betts or Sellers for short yardage situations.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Maybe, we saw Sellers get a few short yardage carries last year, perhaps we'll see more of that this year.

I agree, Sellers is a total MONSTER every time he touches the ball, I would love to see him used for short yardage situations. Portis and Betts are great between the 20's or even the 10's but lets see what Sellers can do on the goal line... And I am not talking about those roll out passes either, I want to see him up the gut and take out LB on his way to the endzone from like the 3 yard line....

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I agree, Sellers is a total MONSTER every time he touches the ball, I would love to see him used for short yardage situations. Portis and Betts are great between the 20's or even the 10's but lets see what Sellers can do on the goal line... And I am not talking about those roll out passes either, I want to see him up the gut and take out LB on his way to the endzone from like the 3 yard line....

and then he can slober all over them and spike the ball in their face. The guy is 260-275 pounds. I love how he ran over Brian Dawkins in 2005. I want to see more of that.

[GusFrerotte]

Rate every offensive line from 1-32? I would just go to NFL.com pull up the team rushing stats sacks allowed and passing yards and just do the math.

[FRPLG]

Without doing statistical research, I'm lazy, I can say that we're a top 7 OL. If you break down position we stack up pretty well with almost any line. Add in some solid chemistry and you can bump up a raw talent score a bit. The question is LG. I am not sure I like what I am hearing out of the Park. It sounds like Wade was struggling a little bit and even though it is early I would arther have heard he was looking like the second coming of Steinbach. On the other hand our depth sounds like it is as strong as it has been in years which is a welcome relief.

Samuels is a top 5 tackle. Some will argue this but they are the ones who don't remember what an average LT looks like. He may not be Walter Jones in his prime but he is right behind the small group of totally dominate LTs.

Wade-who knows. He clearly had skills to be a beyond serviceable tackle which would seem to lend him to being an above average tackle but that remains to be seen. Whitacker as his backup makes me feel a lot better about this spot. One of these guys has to be decent.

Rabach-probably on average, maybe a little above. But what does it really matter. He doesn't commit a lot of penalties and seems to be doing just fine directing the line. He is not by any stretch a weak link.

Thomas- I think he is one of the most underrated guards in the league. Our line falls apart when he is out. He is good, very good.

Jansen-Used to be a top 7 tackle and has probably slipped a bit. A top 10 type guy now skills wise but his leadership is a plus.

Put them together and add the carryover chemistry and they have two top tier guys, one pretty good guy, one ok guy and one who knows guy. Not sure how that adds up but I dont see it being worse than last year.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Without doing statistical research, I'm lazy, I can say that we're a top 7 OL. If you break down position we stack up pretty well with almost any line. Add in some solid chemistry and you can bump up a raw talent score a bit. The question is LG. I am not sure I like what I am hearing out of the Park. It sounds like Wade was struggling a little bit and even though it is early I would arther have heard he was looking like the second coming of Steinbach. On the other hand our depth sounds like it is as strong as it has been in years which is a welcome relief.

Samuels is a top 5 tackle. Some will argue this but they are the ones who don't remember what an average LT looks like. He may not be Walter Jones in his prime but he is right behind the small group of totally dominate LTs.

Wade-who knows. He clearly had skills to be a beyond serviceable tackle which would seem to lend him to being an above average tackle but that remains to be seen. Whitacker as his backup makes me feel a lot better about this spot. One of these guys has to be decent.

Rabach-probably on average, maybe a little above. But what does it really matter. He doesn't commit a lot of penalties and seems to be doing just fine directing the line. He is not by any stretch a weak link.

Thomas- I think he is one of the most underrated guards in the league. Our line falls apart when he is out. He is good, very good.

Jansen-Used to be a top 7 tackle and has probably slipped a bit. A top 10 type guy now skills wise but his leadership is a plus.

Put them together and add the carryover chemistry and they have two top tier guys, one pretty good guy, one ok guy and one who knows guy. Not sure how that adds up but I dont see it being worse than last year.

I agree...also I feel we have THE best OL coach in the league. Long live Bugel.

[budw38]

Talent wise I would say 4th - 7th .On performance , maybe top ten . Hard to gage the line , new offence , change at QB , and injuries to Thomas and Jansen . If we can move the ball and score TD's this year at NYG and at Dallass , maybe top 5 or better. We have to score TDs in NY and Dallass this year !!!!

[skins009]

1. SD
2. Vikings
3. Patriots
4. SKins

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skins009

1. SD
2. Vikings
3. Patriots
4. SKins

500 for you. You must be happy

[davy]

This is as good a way of ranking OLs as I've seen...

Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: Quality Stats: 2006 Offensive Hog Index