Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions

[GMScud]

Dating back to the entire second half of last season, Kurt Warner has been on fire. I can see Arizona scoring 21-24 points on us. I think Boldin and Fitzgerald are each good for a TD, maybe Hightower gets one on a goal-line run, and Rackers is a very good kicker. I think they'll be almost all pass against us. If we can bottle up Reggie Bush in the run game, we can damn sure contain Edgerrin James.

The question is can the offense continue to progress? We got chunks of yards against a rookie corner in his first road game last weekend, and the rest of their secondary was pretty banged up. Arizona has Rolle (who apparently is meshing well with the safety position) Rogers-Cromartie, and Adrian Wilson. They aren't an excellent secondary, but they're a helluva lot better than what we faced last weekend.

In the end I think we'll manage 3 TDs, probaby 2 in the air and 1 on the ground. A few drives will stall out again, netting 1 or 2 FGs. Overall we play well, but don't look as good as last weekend.

If we can rattle warner with a good pass rush from AC and JT and force a few errant throws and/or fumbles, maybe we break 30 points.

I say 27-24 Redskins.

[Riggo44]

Washington-24
Arizona-14

[CRedskinsRule]

Skins 24
Cards 17

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by 4thGenRedskin21

Umm, nooo?? Not anymore, we are a sound team and we arent going to lose to someone like the cardinals or the raiders or the rams anymore. We have the type of talent that exploits mismatches and we are going to dominate this game. Portis always plays big against the cards and last year we would have tore them up if gibbs didnt do the conservative playcalling and then they almost came back, but thats not going to happen again. Our defense will put them away after our offense tears them up. Our offense is going to build off last weeks win and we will see the team start to gel better. Then teams better watch out

When was the last time we lost to a garbage team?? in 04-05 when we lost to the raiders?

You are so quick to dismiss the Cards, yet they are 2-0. Granted, they played SF and Miami, but SF did beat Seattle last week. They have 2 of the league's top receivers, and now that they have a decent O-Line, Warner has time to find them. A sound team does not look like they did against the Giants. While we're getting there, and you have great confidence, I would not look past the Cards. They are certainly much better than the Raiders and Rams you compare them to.

[4thGenRedskin21]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

You are so quick to dismiss the Cards, yet they are 2-0. Granted, they played SF and Miami, but SF did beat Seattle last week. They have 2 of the league's top receivers, and now that they have a decent O-Line, Warner has time to find them. A sound team does not look like they did against the Giants. While we're getting there, and you have great confidence, I would not look past the Cards. They are certainly much better than the Raiders and Rams you compare them to.

yes, and i will continue to dismiss the cardinals until they can beat us or until they can prove they are a good team.. IM not convinced they are good by beating the 49ers and the miami dolphins, give me a break.. And you saw the 49ers beat seattle?? are you serious??? MAtt Hassellbeck is injured and they have NO WEAPONS! so, end that talk, the seattle seahawks are not the same team we have faced in the past, if they were even half that team, the 49ers wouldnt have won. PLUs we are at home, and we are coming off a hot game.. They have a veryyy easy schedule, and im sorry but im not affraid of the cards.. We are a sound team guy, we have all our players we have had from last year and every team in the nfl has a bad game, hat was ours.. You are telling me the gians last year werent sound?? they were 0-2 and played us and beat us and we were 2-0.. your theory means nothing but good try mr.football

lol

oh yeah, i wanted to remind you that the lions have 2 of the gmaes best WR's too, but we stomped the dogpiss out of them last year, and we also beat the cardinals, and until late, we were winning by alot.. joe gibbs started with the vanilla play calling and trying to just hold on to the win instead of trying to keep scoring.. we arent gonna make that same mistake guy, trust me.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 4thGenRedskin21

yes, and i will continue to dismiss the cardinals until they can beat us or until they can prove they are a good team.. IM not convinced they are good by beating the 49ers and the miami dolphins, give me a break.. And you saw the 49ers beat seattle?? are you serious??? MAtt Hassellbeck is injured and they have NO WEAPONS! so, end that talk, the seattle seahawks are not the same team we have faced in the past, if they were even half that team, the 49ers wouldnt have won. PLUs we are at home, and we are coming off a hot game.. They have a veryyy easy schedule, and im sorry but im not affraid of the cards.. We are a sound team guy, we have all our players we have had from last year and every team in the nfl has a bad game, hat was ours.. You are telling me the gians last year werent sound?? they were 0-2 and played us and beat us and we were 2-0.. your theory means nothing but good try mr.football

lol



oh yeah, i wanted to remind you that the lions have 2 of the gmaes best WR's too, but we stomped the dogpiss out of them last year, and we also beat the cardinals, and until late, we were winning by alot.. joe gibbs started with the vanilla play calling and trying to just hold on to the win instead of trying to keep scoring.. we arent gonna make that same mistake guy, trust me.

I guess if anyone thinks anything is coming other than a blowout by the Redskins they know nothing about football, huh? San Fran scored 33 points against a HEALTHY Seahawks defense in their house- one of the toughest places to play as a road team. Not saying the 49ers are great, but don't dismiss Arizona beating them in San Fran.

The Giants looked awful in their first two games last year, and weren't sound when we played them week 3. They caught fire in the second half of the season. They beat us week 3 because we had a pitiful second half and ran the same play 4 times at the goal line.

Yeah, we have a sound team. But that's not really a good argument for a blowout. We've found plenty of ways to blow games the last few seasons with much of the same "sound" team we have now. One win by 5 points doesn't give me endless confidence. Guy.

[4thGenRedskin21]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I guess if anyone thinks anything is coming other than a blowout by the Redskins they know nothing about football, huh? San Fran scored 33 points against a HEALTHY Seahawks defense in their house- one of the toughest places to play as a road team. Not saying the 49ers are great, but don't dismiss Arizona beating them in San Fran.

The Giants looked awful in their first two games last year, and weren't sound when we played them week 3. They caught fire in the second half of the season. They beat us week 3 because we had a pitiful second half and ran the same play 4 times at the goal line.

Yeah, we have a sound team. But that's not really a good argument for a blowout. We've found plenty of ways to blow games the last few seasons with much of the same "sound" team we have now. One win by 5 points doesn't give me endless confidence. Guy.

a win is a win, check the stats, that should be whats giving you confidence. PLus the fact last year we could have won every game that we lost except 1 and that was the patriots. I think sometimes people OVERLOOK us and forget that we arent a pushover team, and when we are healthy, we are VERY hard to beat, and we are pretty damn healthy. Rogers has been worked back into the lineup and him smoot and springs help us VERY much. You saw waht rocky mac did and washington will be back in right? Jason Taylor is starting to get in his groove and they will have to choose who they want to double team, carter or taylor. The fact is the Cardinals have NOT beat a team with the defense and talent we have, and it will show on sunday when we come out with the win. Thats all im gonna say, GUY.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 4thGenRedskin21

a win is a win, check the stats, that should be whats giving you confidence. PLus the fact last year we could have won every game that we lost except 1 and that was the patriots. I think sometimes people OVERLOOK us and forget that we arent a pushover team, and when we are healthy, we are VERY hard to beat, and we are pretty damn healthy. Rogers has been worked back into the lineup and him smoot and springs help us VERY much. You saw waht rocky mac did and washington will be back in right? Jason Taylor is starting to get in his groove and they will have to choose who they want to double team, carter or taylor. The fact is the Cardinals have NOT beat a team with the defense and talent we have, and it will show on sunday when we come out with the win. Thats all im gonna say, GUY.

If you read my first post on this thread, I picked us to win. I just think it's going to be close and I stated pretty clearly why I think so.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I guess if anyone thinks anything is coming other than a blowout by the Redskins they know nothing about football, huh? San Fran scored 33 points against a HEALTHY Seahawks defense in their house- one of the toughest places to play as a road team. Not saying the 49ers are great, but don't dismiss Arizona beating them in San Fran.

The Giants looked awful in their first two games last year, and weren't sound when we played them week 3. They caught fire in the second half of the season. They beat us week 3 because we had a pitiful second half and ran the same play 4 times at the goal line.

Yeah, we have a sound team. But that's not really a good argument for a blowout. We've found plenty of ways to blow games the last few seasons with much of the same "sound" team we have now. One win by 5 points doesn't give me endless confidence. Guy.

Damn...I wasted my time on my response, when GMScud did it for me...

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by 4thGenRedskin21

yes, and i will continue to dismiss the cardinals until they can beat us or until they can prove they are a good team.. IM not convinced they are good by beating the 49ers and the miami dolphins, give me a break.. And you saw the 49ers beat seattle?? are you serious??? MAtt Hassellbeck is injured and they have NO WEAPONS! so, end that talk, the seattle seahawks are not the same team we have faced in the past, if they were even half that team, the 49ers wouldnt have won. PLUs we are at home, and we are coming off a hot game.. They have a veryyy easy schedule, and im sorry but im not affraid of the cards.. We are a sound team guy, we have all our players we have had from last year and every team in the nfl has a bad game, hat was ours.. You are telling me the gians last year werent sound?? they were 0-2 and played us and beat us and we were 2-0.. your theory means nothing but good try mr.football

lol

oh yeah, i wanted to remind you that the lions have 2 of the gmaes best WR's too, but we stomped the dogpiss out of them last year, and we also beat the cardinals, and until late, we were winning by alot.. joe gibbs started with the vanilla play calling and trying to just hold on to the win instead of trying to keep scoring.. we arent gonna make that same mistake guy, trust me.

Momentum is a dish best served hot and right out of the gate. The fact that the Cards played the 9ers and 'Phins only help them in regards to facing the Skins...and the 9ers beating the Seahawks in Seattle, no matter who's on the field, goes a long way. And a bulging disk, while painful, isn't much of an injury. He will line up under center on Sunday, and that by any means does not make up for their failure.

And as you point out, the Skins are coming off a hot game (pardon the pun)...the Cards are coming off 2 hot games, where they scored 30+ to their opponents 11.5. Again, momentum...do not be overconfident. The past does not represent fact for the present. It may help, but doesn't not 100% represent fact.

The Giants were carried down the stretch and into the Super Bowl on the backs of Michael Strahan, Justin Tuck, and the rest of the defense. The icing on the cake was that Manning got hot in the playoffs. They weren't sound when the Skins lost to them in Week 3 and were running cold in Week 15 when the Skins beat them. It was the 6 game winning streak starting with Week 3 that allowed them to limp into the playoffs at 10-6 and play lights out at the right time.

The difference between the Cards WRs and the Lions WRs (besides the QB throwing to them) is experience. That will trump the youthfulness that Johnson and Williams have.

[4thGenRedskin21]

BD, do you not understand?? they beat two teams that had a combined record of what?? 6 wins and 26 losses? when they start beating some good teams, then we can start talking about how good the cardinals are, until then, you are everything you are saying pretty much on the fact they beat horrible san fran and the even worse miami dolphins... They have played NO ONE, and we have beat them the last 6 times we have played them , AND we are playing at OUR house. THe Cardinals would lose to the Saints, and they are gonna lose to us.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 4thGenRedskin21

BD, do you not understand?? they beat two teams that had a combined record of what?? 6 wins and 26 losses? when they start beating some good teams, then we can start talking about how good the cardinals are, until then, you are everything you are saying pretty much on the fact they beat horrible san fran and the even worse miami dolphins... They have played NO ONE, and we have beat them the last 6 times we have played them , AND we are playing at OUR house. THe Cardinals would lose to the Saints, and they are gonna lose to us.

Again, overall they've won 7 of their last 10 regular season games including the last 4 in a row, and their offense is clicking on all cylinders. So what if the 9ers and Phins aren't good? Arizona took full advantage of that fact and they have great rhythm going right now. They did what a good team should do to bad teams- spanked them.

I agree with BD - Arizona playing well and scoring in bunches against bad teams is actually worse for us this weekend than if they had been struggling against good teams. Their offense has great tempo and could give us some problems.

[4thGenRedskin21]

besides, it doesnt matter if you have the best defense in the league, if you cant score points, you arent gonna win, and thats why the seahawks got beat.

If offense didnt matter, the raiders would have won more games than they have the past 3 years. in fact, didnt the raiders have a top 5 or 10 defense the past 2 years? I know they had a great defense

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by 4thGenRedskin21

besides, it doesnt matter if you have the best defense in the league, if you cant score points, you arent gonna win, and thats why the seahawks got beat.

If offense didnt matter, the raiders would have won more games than they have the past 3 years. in fact, didnt the raiders have a top 5 or 10 defense the past 2 years? I know they had a great defense

Actually have to contradict that a bit, although it is a rare instance I grant you.

But in the year that the Ravens won the Super Bowl, they did not score an offensive TD the final 6 games of the regular season. All points were scored by the defense and Special Teams.

[4thGenRedskin21]

oh lord, whatever guys.. when sunday comes, and we stomp the cards, you will know what I was talking about. Zorn isnt going to let campbell slip back down, he is going to make campbell build off that win and then they have Cooley,portis,betts,moss,randle El, and Rock on returning balls to deal with. We have to deal with their passing offense, thats it, thats all we have to worry about.. So when we shut down their passing game, what are they gonna do?