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Old 04-04-2009, 09:15 PM   #1
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We should try to sign a guy like Garcia.
He may be a bit too light for the potential pounding he may take here and will never see his career high totals ever again because he doesn't have a T.O to throw to.
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Old 04-05-2009, 10:00 AM   #2
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He may be a bit too light for the potential pounding he may take here and will never see his career high totals ever again because he doesn't have a T.O to throw to.
Garcia's size hasn't stopped him from playing at a high level in the west coast offense. And he hasn't had TO to throw to in quite a while.
Garcia would add tremendous value to our team if we signed him. Look what he did for the Eagles a couple years back when McNabb went down. I'd sign him in a heartbeat.
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:22 PM   #3
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I love Leftwich. when we played Pittsburgh, I knew we were in trouble the minute he came in. I never understood why Jacksonville gave up on him. He has a wind up delivery that is ridiculous, but he can get the ball to his receivers. Maybe Zorn can make his delivery a little better and he would be awesome. As for the Pittsburgh line being better than ours, that is not the case. Their line sucked.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:29 PM   #4
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I started a thread about this very subject not too long ago and everyone went nuts. I don't see why he can't be an upgrade over Collins. The only thing that gets me is why Collins was never given a shot even after he took us to the playoffs?
I'm in favor of Byron but only as a backup for this season. I'd be happy one way or the other. I like Collins too but he is getting long in the tooth and he's not in the team's future.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:35 PM   #5
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I started a thread about this very subject not too long ago and everyone went nuts. I don't see why he can't be an upgrade over Collins. The only thing that gets me is why Collins was never given a shot even after he took us to the playoffs?
I'm in favor of Byron but only as a backup for this season. I'd be happy one way or the other. I like Collins too but he is getting long in the tooth and he's not in the team's future.
I remember that, and I think it was because everyone thought right away you were saying he should replace Campbell.

I like Leftwich but I really don't know what he offers above Campbell.
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I remember that, and I think it was because everyone thought right away you were saying he should replace Campbell.

I like Leftwich but I really don't know what he offers above Campbell.
Well, outside of the fact that two years ago, Byron Leftwich was Jason Campbell, not very much.

Signed for the right reasons, he's an excellent use of resources. Signed for the wrong reasons, and he becomes the first line in a bunch of moves that hurts offensive development. So even though I'm a Leftwich-advocate, once a deal gets done, I'll take a wait and see approach to see what we're planning for next year.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:31 PM   #7
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ok i shouldnt have said there o-line was better. but the few times he played last year, and one of those games was against us he had all the time in the world to pass the ball because we couldnt get pressure on any qb last year. i am just saying with our o-line being suspect with his slow deilvery he would not be an effective QB.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:08 PM   #8
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I am cool with swaping collins for a cheaper and much younger leftwich.
Collins is ok....but he poses no threat to start whatsoever.
If they want to push Campbell to the next level...give him some decent competition.

That dude is laid back too...just like Campbell...there are a lot of similarities between the 2....I am not sold on Collins being able to rock the west coast offense either...Collins throws to spots...not to receivers...so if neither are west coast system guys...why not go younger, cheaper and with more recent experience for the backup?

You guys gung ho on Colt are crazy...this guy is in no condition to start...maybe after 2 more preseasons he could be a decent number 2.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:20 PM   #9
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I am cool with swaping collins for a cheaper and much younger leftwich.
Collins is ok....but he poses no threat to start whatsoever.
If they want to push Campbell to the next level...give him some decent competition.

That dude is laid back too...just like Campbell...there are a lot of similarities between the 2....I am not sold on Collins being able to rock the west coast offense either...Collins throws to spots...not to receivers...so if neither are west coast system guys...why not go younger, cheaper and with more recent experience for the backup?

You guys gung ho on Colt are crazy...this guy is in no condition to start...maybe after 2 more preseasons he could be a decent number 2.
I agree, I couldnt believe all of the folks calling for Colt. I think Colt has the potential to be a fine QB one day. But not today.
After all we have been through in Redkins Nation we owe it to ourselves and JC to leave him be and let him deveolop.
This will be his season of truth.
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:39 AM   #10
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You guys gung ho on Colt are crazy...this guy is in no condition to start...maybe after 2 more preseasons he could be a decent number 2.
I would never wish anything bad on our team or players, but for the sole reason of silencing the Cult of Colt I wouldn't be heartbroken if he played poorly in preseason.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:14 PM   #11
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Leftwich is not a WCO guy it would be a waste.
Going after Garcia would be a waste of time as well.

Collins know his role is to just run the offense until JC comes back or Colt improves and takes the number two job.

As a matter of fact the only free agent that is not OL or DL they should consider is maybe Rudy Johnson.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:15 PM   #12
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Yes, throwing to a spot is the WCO.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:55 PM   #13
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In training camp last year Collins looked like a stiff. For a system that is so heavily predicated on footwork, TC seemed to have the most trouble of the 4 QB's in camp. He was great for us in the Gibbs/Saunders era, but it's safe to say he's done. Besides, didnt I hear that he was considering retirement and Vinny talked him out of it?

As for Leftwich, he might have a slow wind-up, but he's tough and can get it done. It would be a great pickup for the Redskins.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:03 AM   #14
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Maybe they plan on opening the offense up and they want someone who can get the ball downfield in case JC gets hurt or under performs. Besides no one really runs a true version of the WCO anymore anyway. I don't have a problem with this.
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Old 04-05-2009, 05:33 AM   #15
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It should probably be noted that Leftwich left without being offered a contract. Not yet anyway.
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