10 Cuts-Your Call

Ruhskins · 12-22-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

God, looking at the release fees it's easy to see that Vinny did exactly what he did in San Francisco, basically leaving a team in cap hell. Samuels is going to cost us $7 mil against the cap.

To the cap gurus, would this happen if he were to retire?

Dirtbag59 · 12-22-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

To the cap gurus, would this happen if he were to retire?

Someone needs to answer this. Same question as well with Randy Thomas.

GTripp0012 · 12-22-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Someone needs to answer this. Same question as well with Randy Thomas.

Under the uncapped year scenario...I honestly don't know. I know there are salary-shaving limitations to the uncapped year scenario, I would assume that retirements just happen. But I'm just educated guessing there.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 12-22-2009, 09:27 AM

Cut - No Value
W. Montgomery
Rabach
P. Daniels
ARE
Cartwright
Todd Collins
P. Daniels
Smoot
Wynn

Trade for draft picks
Landry
Cooley
Rogers
Campbell
Portis
Sellers

Retire
R. Thomas
C. Samuels - If he doesn't retire, keep for OL depth and to mentor young players

Monkeydad · 12-22-2009, 12:52 AM

Randel El
Landry
Heyer
Collins
Rabach - STILL MESSING UP SHOTGUN SNAPS TONIGHT!!! ARGH!

^That's all I really ask for.

FRPLG · 12-22-2009, 12:57 AM

Wow...so many options.

Dumb players gone...

Landry
Hall
McIntosh

Worthless players gone...

Montgomery
Heyer
Rabach
Sellers
Griffin

Overpaid players gone...

ARE
Portis

Beemnseven · 12-22-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Wow...so many options.

Dumb players gone...

Landry
Hall
McIntosh

Worthless players gone...

Montgomery
Heyer
Rabach
Sellers
Griffin

Overpaid players gone...

ARE
Portis

I understand everyone else on your list but McIntosh. Seems like a solid, quiet guy who's doing his job.

What specifically have you seen from him to make your list?

SUNRA · 12-22-2009, 01:15 AM

First give Jim Zorn an early christmas present. A pink slip tonight. He's a distraction.
Then Mr. Allen would tell these players thank you but your services are no longer required.

1.Antwaan Randle El
2.Fred Smoot
3.Carlos Rodgers
4.Clinton Portis
5.Casey Rabach
6.Randy Thomas
7.Malcolm Kelly
8.Stephon Heyer
9.Santana Moss
10.Ladell Betts

Lotus · 12-22-2009, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

First give Jim Zorn an early christmas present. A pink slip tonight. He's a distraction.
Then Mr. Allen would tell these players thank you but your services are no longer required.

1.Antwaan Randle El
2.Fred Smoot
3.Carlos Rodgers
4.Clinton Portis
5.Casey Rabach
6.Randy Thomas
7.Malcolm Kelly
8.Stephon Heyer
9.Santana Moss
10.Ladell Betts

This.

Except I'd keep Betts and cut Griff.

poopoobigelow · 12-22-2009, 02:15 AM

there are too many variables to just cut several people for the sake of cutting them... that is, an evaluation needs to be done of the coaches coming in and who will fit their system, especially defensively...

regardless, portis and ARE must go... especially if it's uncapped...

cut doughty and let horton and landry fight it out to start at SS...

sorry, heyer, you're just not good enough... god bless...

rabach, daniels, wynn (though he's not started), cartwright, griffin, sellers

move thomas to X, marko to Y, moss to Z...

these are the moves i would make no matter who is coming in to coach...

jones, kelly, mike williams, rocky, betts, ganther, will montgomery, rodgers would need to be evaluated by the new staff for aditional cuts as far as starters go...

Redskin Warrior · 12-22-2009, 01:30 AM

Daniels (old)
Griffin (old)
Wynn (old)
Rabach (lack of production)
Heyer (lack of production)
ARE (lack of production)
Betts (old)
Samuels (old)
Thomas (old)
Smoot (lack of production)

warpaint · 12-22-2009, 03:38 AM

CP
C.Samuals
L.Betts
M.Sellars
ARE
Ganther
C.Rodgers
Griffen
R.Wynn
O-LINE

Chico23231 · 12-22-2009, 06:02 AM

1.Portis
2.ARE
3.Smoot
4.Montgomery
5.Rienhart
6.Daniels
7.Rock
8.Malcom Kelly
9.Randy Thomas
10. This is tough...toss up Heyer or Rabach

10 starters is a sh*t ton....I like Heyer and Reinhart for depth, but these guys are not starters in this league...Ive would have included Samuels, but given the fact he is our best player in the last decade, give him the chance to take retirement. Im not including Laron, he is simply out of position and has value

djnemo65 · 12-22-2009, 06:14 AM

Clinton Portis
Mike Williams
ARE
Chad Rinehardt
Randy Thomas
Casey Rabach
Fred Smoot
Justin Tyron
Cornelius Griffin
Would consider Hall just to get his ridiculous cap off the books.

DynamiteRave · 12-22-2009, 06:18 AM

Just looking at the roster real quick...

Portis - On the downward trek of his career
Randy Thomas - Old. Season ending injuries .every. season
ARE - Good for nothing except losing yards on punts
Rogers - Has pretty much said he wants out
Smoot - Another old guy not doing much of anything
Daniels - Ridiculously old. Can we not find a younger, fast dude to put his hand in the dirt? *cough*Orakpo*cough*
Wynn - Another old guy not getting much (if any) playing time
Heyer - He's so bad on the line, it's scary.
Mason - Expendable
Landry - I'd love to trade. He's great closing in on the line but if there's a deep pass going on, expect him to get made a fool of each and every time.

12-22-2009, 09:27 AM	#4
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call Cut - No Value W. Montgomery Rabach P. Daniels ARE Cartwright Todd Collins P. Daniels Smoot Wynn Trade for draft picks Landry Cooley Rogers Campbell Portis Sellers Retire R. Thomas C. Samuels - If he doesn't retire, keep for OL depth and to mentor young players __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

12-22-2009, 12:52 AM	#5
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call Randel El Landry Heyer Collins Rabach - STILL MESSING UP SHOTGUN SNAPS TONIGHT!!! ARGH! ^That's all I really ask for. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

12-22-2009, 12:57 AM	#6
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call Wow...so many options. Dumb players gone... Landry Hall McIntosh Worthless players gone... Montgomery Heyer Rabach Sellers Griffin Overpaid players gone... ARE Portis

12-22-2009, 01:15 AM	#8
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call First give Jim Zorn an early christmas present. A pink slip tonight. He's a distraction. Then Mr. Allen would tell these players thank you but your services are no longer required. 1.Antwaan Randle El 2.Fred Smoot 3.Carlos Rodgers 4.Clinton Portis 5.Casey Rabach 6.Randy Thomas 7.Malcolm Kelly 8.Stephon Heyer 9.Santana Moss 10.Ladell Betts __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

12-22-2009, 02:15 AM	#10
poopoobigelow Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SLC, unfortunately... Posts: 22	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call there are too many variables to just cut several people for the sake of cutting them... that is, an evaluation needs to be done of the coaches coming in and who will fit their system, especially defensively... regardless, portis and ARE must go... especially if it's uncapped... cut doughty and let horton and landry fight it out to start at SS... sorry, heyer, you're just not good enough... god bless... rabach, daniels, wynn (though he's not started), cartwright, griffin, sellers move thomas to X, marko to Y, moss to Z... these are the moves i would make no matter who is coming in to coach... jones, kelly, mike williams, rocky, betts, ganther, will montgomery, rodgers would need to be evaluated by the new staff for aditional cuts as far as starters go...

12-22-2009, 03:38 AM	#12
warpaint The Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Great State of Texas Posts: 1,022	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call CP C.Samuals L.Betts M.Sellars ARE Ganther C.Rodgers Griffen R.Wynn O-LINE __________________ "Not only do you get a 1st down, but you get a whole new set of downs" John Madden

12-22-2009, 06:02 AM	#13
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,022	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call 1.Portis 2.ARE 3.Smoot 4.Montgomery 5.Rienhart 6.Daniels 7.Rock 8.Malcom Kelly 9.Randy Thomas 10. This is tough...toss up Heyer or Rabach 10 starters is a sh*t ton....I like Heyer and Reinhart for depth, but these guys are not starters in this league...Ive would have included Samuels, but given the fact he is our best player in the last decade, give him the chance to take retirement. Im not including Laron, he is simply out of position and has value __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-22-2009, 06:14 AM	#14
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call Clinton Portis Mike Williams ARE Chad Rinehardt Randy Thomas Casey Rabach Fred Smoot Justin Tyron Cornelius Griffin Would consider Hall just to get his ridiculous cap off the books.

12-22-2009, 06:18 AM	#15
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call Just looking at the roster real quick... Portis - On the downward trek of his career Randy Thomas - Old. Season ending injuries .every. season ARE - Good for nothing except losing yards on punts Rogers - Has pretty much said he wants out Smoot - Another old guy not doing much of anything Daniels - Ridiculously old. Can we not find a younger, fast dude to put his hand in the dirt? coughOrakpocough Wynn - Another old guy not getting much (if any) playing time Heyer - He's so bad on the line, it's scary. Mason - Expendable Landry - I'd love to trade. He's great closing in on the line but if there's a deep pass going on, expect him to get made a fool of each and every time. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

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