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[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Otherwise you are once again the voice of reason, Sammy.

That's scary.

[skinsfaninok]

Shanny doesn't want to rebuild IMO that's the vibe I get when I read his quotes or his interviews

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Shanny doesn't want to rebuild IMO that's the vibe I get when I read his quotes or his interviews

I don't think so either. I think he want's to have a healthy mix of seasoned vets and younger players like he did during his SB runs in Denver.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

I don't think so either. I think he want's to have a healthy mix of seasoned vets and younger players like he did during his SB runs in Denver.

That is rebuilding...isn't it? Rebuilding doesn't have to be a whole roster of 22 year old guys who grow together for 5 years and then get good. He is going to pretty much overturn the entire roster and fill it with more youth and older players STILL in their prime. That is rebuilding...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by celts32

That is rebuilding...isn't it? Rebuilding doesn't have to be a whole roster of 22 year old guys who grow together for 5 years and then get good. He is going to pretty much overturn the entire roster and fill it with more youth and older players STILL in their prime. That is rebuilding...

To the rational and logical fan, yes

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by celts32

That is rebuilding...isn't it? Rebuilding doesn't have to be a whole roster of 22 year old guys who grow together for 5 years and then get good. He is going to pretty much overturn the entire roster and fill it with more youth and older players STILL in their prime. That is rebuilding...

My definition of rebuilding is Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys, Bill Parcell's Patriots, Mike McCarthy's Packers, Raheem Morris's Buc's, Sean Peytons Saint's, Bill Polian's Colts. The nucleus of these teams were all young drafted players, with a few vets to provide some leadership and experience. That's the route I would like to see the Redskins go. All of these teams drafted their starting QB, starting WR, starting RB, and O-lineman.

They didn't sign an old QB, a no-name undrafted RB, a WR from the arena league, and hand me down o-lineman. Anyone who thinks our recent course of action is rational is beyond idiotic.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

My definition of rebuilding is Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys, Bill Parcell's Patriots, Mike McCarthy's Packers, Raheem Morris's Buc's, Sean Peytons Saint's, Bill Polian's Colts. The nucleus of these teams were all young drafted players, with a few vets to provide some leadership and experience. That's the route I would like to see the Redskins go. All of these teams drafted their starting QB, starting WR, starting RB, and O-lineman.

They didn't sign an old QB, a no-name undrafted RB, a WR from the arena league, and hand me down o-lineman. Anyone who thinks our recent course of action is rational is beyond idiotic.

What you describe is the more traditional way of rebuilding but if you turn over an entire roster in a couple of years that by definition is rebuilding. In this era of the NFL very few teams rebuild 100% through the draft. The packers may be the only team in that category since they are publically owned and rarely ever participate in free agency.

Most teams now adays use a combination of draft and free agency and the teams you mentioned panned out in large part becasue they hit on young QB's in the draft which is something I hope the Redskins can do. However, with the way the draft has been neglected in DC for a decade you better settle in for a 7 year wait if you want Shanny to rebuild this roster entirely through the draft. A more realistic scenario is using the draft plus some under 30 free agents to boost the overall talent level and hopefully get competitive in the short term and then over time sustain it with a more draft oriented approach.

One thing...Brees was a free agent so the Saints don't really help make your case.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

My definition of rebuilding is Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys, Bill Parcell's Patriots, Mike McCarthy's Packers, Raheem Morris's Buc's, Sean Peytons Saint's, Bill Polian's Colts. The nucleus of these teams were all young drafted players, with a few vets to provide some leadership and experience. That's the route I would like to see the Redskins go. All of these teams drafted their starting QB, starting WR, starting RB, and O-lineman.

They didn't sign an old QB, a no-name undrafted RB, a WR from the arena league, and hand me down o-lineman. Anyone who thinks our recent course of action is rational is beyond idiotic.

The Saints drafted Drew Brees? That is news to the Chargers.

I think that all of the teams you listed (especially Parcells' Patriots) relied on vets more than you give them credit for.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Shanny doesn't want to rebuild IMO that's the vibe I get when I read his quotes or his interviews

Hence the McNabb trade. I really wish he changed that attitude.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Hence the McNabb trade. I really wish he changed that attitude.

He won't he's older and doesn't want to rebuild which is why you hear Vince Young, Alex Smith being mentioned instead of just going w REX/Rookie

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He won't he's older and doesn't want to rebuild which is why you hear Vince Young, Alex Smith being mentioned instead of just going w REX/Rookie

Rex doesn't get mentioned in the plans because he's Rex.

[30gut]

If we had to take one: Vince Young.

But, signing a FA QBs smacks too much of win now for my taste.

I'll go with a win soon plan.

Open competition in training camp or give John Beck, yeah John Beck, a legit shot at being the QB for Burgundy and Gold outright.

Focus top draft resources on addressing: RT, RDE, NT

Take advantage of the deep pool of middle tier QBs and draft 4th round prospect: Tyrod Taylor, Ricky Stanzi.

Maybe we get lucky and find our QB of the future if not the team has improved we've developed depth at the QB position and can look to further address the QB if need be next year with more valueable resources.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Open competition in training camp or give John Beck, yeah John Beck, a legit shot at being the QB for Burgundy and Gold outright.

Beck wants to be ‘the guy’ - The Insider - The Washington Post

Bring on John Beck baby!

[skinsfaninok]

I think Beck is a quality backup but he deserves a shot at the number 1 spot. Right now with Rex a FA and DM leaving he is the guy LOL

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I think Beck is a quality backup but he deserves a shot at the number 1 spot. Right now with Rex a FA and DM leaving he is the guy LOL

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