Bountygate Punishment for the Saints

[Monkeydad]

Killer.

I really think this is way too harsh since a lot of teams probably do this and hide it better.



Goodell really likes to make these "I am the king" statements every chance he gets.

Maybe this is to take attention away from the salary cap debacle that will end up being a black eye for the Commish.

I can't believe Sean Peyton is gone...this alone will hurt the team dramatically and could finally send Brees out of town. He still has not signed his franchise tag, right?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Killer.

I really think this is way too harsh since a lot of teams probably do this and hide it better.



Goodell really likes to make these "I am the king" statements every chance he gets.

Maybe this is to take attention away from the salary cap debacle that will end up being a black eye for the Commish.

I can't believe Sean Peyton is gone...this alone will hurt the team dramatically and could finally send Brees out of town. He still has not signed his franchise tag, right?

I think the reason they are getting hit so hard is because they were warned and did not stop. If that's not the case then why didn't they hit them harder the 1st time.

[SkinsGuru]

WOW is right!! . . . Deserved IMO . . . that's sends a pretty clear message that the NFL will not tolerate this type of behavior . . .

[DCtoAZ]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

WOW is right!! . . . Deserved IMO . . . that's sends a pretty clear message that the NFL will not tolerate this type of behavior . . .

You really think that is deserved ?? You gotta be getting me man .. this is football ... 99% of the NFL players don't think this is deserved .. this is by far the most BS move the God-dell has ever done ... the fact that SpyGate didn't get the hoodie suspended and this blows a team away for a YEAR .. holy s**T man this is so over the top considering every single team does this is some way form or fashion ... I bet when GW was here and Area51 was laying down beatdowns you probably said, yeah you know what this is too much I hope they get the hammer laid down on them .. boo hoo on these hits .. give me a break dude ... football is heading down a real weird path if we keep putting skirts on these guys .. that's why tackling sucks and defenses get smoked .. I'm sorry but I love a good ass mammoth hit on a QB .. I feel bad for the Saints ... I also feel for the Skins/Boys with this Salary Cap BS .. the Shield is out of control with power.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

You really think that is deserved ?? You gotta be getting me man .. this is football ... 99% of the NFL players don't think this is deserved .. this is by far the most BS move the God-dell has ever done ... the fact that SpyGate didn't get the hoodie suspended and this blows a team away for a YEAR .. holy s**T man this is so over the top considering every single team does this is some way form or fashion ... I bet when GW was here and Area51 was laying down beatdowns you probably said, yeah you know what this is too much I hope they get the hammer laid down on them .. boo hoo on these hits .. give me a break dude ... football is heading down a real weird path if we keep putting skirts on these guys .. that's why tackling sucks and defenses get smoked .. I'm sorry but I love a good ass mammoth hit on a QB .. I feel bad for the Saints ... I also feel for the Skins/Boys with this Salary Cap BS .. the Shield is out of control with power.

Totally disagree

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Totally disagree

No doubt.....you boys need to stop comparing this to Belichick. He didnt try to maim anyone.
Horrible comparison.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Totally disagree

Some people will just never get it.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

You really think that is deserved ?? You gotta be getting me man .. this is football ... 99% of the NFL players don't think this is deserved .. this is by far the most BS move the God-dell has ever done ... the fact that SpyGate didn't get the hoodie suspended and this blows a team away for a YEAR .. holy s**T man this is so over the top considering every single team does this is some way form or fashion ... I bet when GW was here and Area51 was laying down beatdowns you probably said, yeah you know what this is too much I hope they get the hammer laid down on them .. boo hoo on these hits .. give me a break dude ... football is heading down a real weird path if we keep putting skirts on these guys .. that's why tackling sucks and defenses get smoked .. I'm sorry but I love a good ass mammoth hit on a QB .. I feel bad for the Saints ... I also feel for the Skins/Boys with this Salary Cap BS .. the Shield is out of control with power.

Do you think the punishment on Michael Vick was also undeserved?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

You really think that is deserved ?? You gotta be getting me man .. this is football ... 99% of the NFL players don't think this is deserved .. this is by far the most BS move the God-dell has ever done ... the fact that SpyGate didn't get the hoodie suspended and this blows a team away for a YEAR .. holy s**T man this is so over the top considering every single team does this is some way form or fashion ... I bet when GW was here and Area51 was laying down beatdowns you probably said, yeah you know what this is too much I hope they get the hammer laid down on them .. boo hoo on these hits .. give me a break dude ... football is heading down a real weird path if we keep putting skirts on these guys .. that's why tackling sucks and defenses get smoked .. I'm sorry but I love a good ass mammoth hit on a QB .. I feel bad for the Saints ... I also feel for the Skins/Boys with this Salary Cap BS .. the Shield is out of control with power.

You've been playing waaaay too much NFL Blitz.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

You really think that is deserved ?? You gotta be getting me man .. this is football ... 99% of the NFL players don't think this is deserved .. this is by far the most BS move the God-dell has ever done ... the fact that SpyGate didn't get the hoodie suspended and this blows a team away for a YEAR .. holy s**T man this is so over the top considering every single team does this is some way form or fashion ... I bet when GW was here and Area51 was laying down beatdowns you probably said, yeah you know what this is too much I hope they get the hammer laid down on them .. boo hoo on these hits .. give me a break dude ... football is heading down a real weird path if we keep putting skirts on these guys .. that's why tackling sucks and defenses get smoked .. I'm sorry but I love a good ass mammoth hit on a QB .. I feel bad for the Saints ... I also feel for the Skins/Boys with this Salary Cap BS .. the Shield is out of control with power.

Roger Goddell doesn't understand football. It's obvious that he just doesn't have a clue.

[over the mountain]

I havent read everything there is on this but imo giving an incentive to take a player out doesnt mean encouraging your players to play dirty.

Imo it means encouraging hard hits within the rules.

Hearing alot of players comment on radio, theyve all hinted at some kind "bounty" on every team.

punishment seems really harsh and arbitrary. Two game suspension and a draft pick would have been fine.

An legit appeal process should be put in place for discipline actions.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

I havent read everything there is on this but imo giving an incentive to take a player out doesnt mean encouraging your players to play dirty.

Imo it means encouraging hard hits within the rules.

$1500 for a "knockout"

$1000 to be "carried off "

I can remove a player from the play by doing my job on the field ....that does'nt mean injury,maiming,or disabling another player.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

I havent read everything there is on this but imo giving an incentive to take a player out doesnt mean encouraging your players to play dirty.

Imo it means encouraging hard hits within the rules.

Hearing alot of players comment on radio, theyve all hinted at some kind "bounty" on every team.

punishment seems really harsh and arbitrary. Two game suspension and a draft pick would have been fine.

An legit appeal process should be put in place for discipline actions.

I think when you're paying for players to get knocked out of the game, the line between playing hard clean football and dirty football has been seriously blurred.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

I havent read everything there is on this but imo giving an incentive to take a player out doesnt mean encouraging your players to play dirty.

Imo it means encouraging hard hits within the rules.

Hearing alot of players comment on radio, theyve all hinted at some kind "bounty" on every team.

punishment seems really harsh and arbitrary. Two game suspension and a draft pick would have been fine.

An legit appeal process should be put in place for discipline actions.

Let's not forget that the biggest reason for such a harsh penalty isn't exactly the bounty program itself, but the fact that the Saints denied they had one and then later it was discovered they had lied about it. That's where the harshness of this punishment is coming from. If the Saints had admitted it from the beginning, the punishment would probably have been steep, but I don't think you would have seen coaches being banned from the league indefinitely.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

You really think that is deserved ?? You gotta be getting me man .. this is football ... 99% of the NFL players don't think this is deserved .. this is by far the most BS move the God-dell has ever done ... the fact that SpyGate didn't get the hoodie suspended and this blows a team away for a YEAR .. holy s**T man this is so over the top considering every single team does this is some way form or fashion ... I bet when GW was here and Area51 was laying down beatdowns you probably said, yeah you know what this is too much I hope they get the hammer laid down on them .. boo hoo on these hits .. give me a break dude ... football is heading down a real weird path if we keep putting skirts on these guys .. that's why tackling sucks and defenses get smoked .. I'm sorry but I love a good ass mammoth hit on a QB .. I feel bad for the Saints ... I also feel for the Skins/Boys with this Salary Cap BS .. the Shield is out of control with power.

Can you cite the survey that shows 99% of the players think this is wrong? Chris Kluwe's Twitter feed says he agrees with it. Are there 98 other Twitter feeds from players who say this is nonsense - - in addition to Drew Brees?

Comparing this to Spygate is interesting but it is apples and oranges. No one was injured based on Spygate. AND, Belichick and the Pats never lied to the league about what they were doing or had done. Their argument was that their actions obeyed the letter of the rule if not the spirit of the rule. The Saints were warned multiple times about this; they lied about its existence; then they did nothing to stop it.

With regard to your ranting over the "pussification" of pro football, the NFL will not even begin to care until it sees revenues decrease significantly over a period of time. Until then, the trend is for more player safety - - even though you don't like it. Given that you don't like it, the NFL is telling you very politely to take your sports interests elsewhere. They are betting that you are not going to do that; they are betting that after you post your screed here and on a few other message boards, you will continue to tune into games, buy official team logo "stuff" and attend a game or two when you can. Only you can prove them wrong...