Skins Viks Postgame

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

This and then some.

I know people hate Kyle, but it's crazy how people are pointing fingers at the offense for this. We made Ponder look like a legit QB for crying out loud.

Coming into that game the Vikings were near the bottom of the league in total offense and middle of the pack in points per game. 34 points matched their highest ouput in a game this season.

The offense didn't blow a 27-14 3rd quarter lead.

While Kyle irritates me at times with his propensity to get cute on third and short and near the goalline rather than just pound the rock, it's really hard to kill him for this loss. Its like we forget when the offense would really struggle to score 21 points. If you can't beat a 1 win team with 27 points you probably don't deserve to win any games.

At one point last night Ponder had completed 10 straight passes. Christian Ponder. Who lost his job to Matt Cassell. The same Matt Cassell that lost his job to Josh Freeman. Who was released by a winless team. Yeah, that Christian Ponder.

The bigger picture is not Kyle or even that we 'lost' but that we lost to a 1 win team, missing 4 starters, who didn't even have enough healthy players to complete the MINIMUM roster requirements for an NFL game. That's staggering. The fact we built a 13 point second half lead isn't impressive, we should have done that. The bottom line is, we lack the talent and discipline to be anything but a 3-6 team.

Forget the calls the refs missed. 3 personal fouls, all led to touchdowns. That's on the players and coaches for not coaching the selfishness out of the players. The fake punt debacle, that's what bad teams do in the preseason, not November.

I've been a Shanahan guy but I'm really about ready to pull the plug and let someone else take over. Great pieces on both sides of the ball in Griffin, Morris, Garcon, Reed, T. Williams, Cofield, Kerrigan and I think Amerson. Solid pieces in plenty of other spots but it's time to move on last year's streak and really evaluate the roster for what it is.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

This and then some.

I know people hate Kyle, but it's crazy how people are pointing fingers at the offense for this. We made Ponder look like a legit QB for crying out loud.

Coming into that game the Vikings were near the bottom of the league in total offense and middle of the pack in points per game. 34 points matched their highest ouput in a game this season.

The offense didn't blow a 27-14 3rd quarter lead.

I agree but 3 points in the 2nd half??? That's pathetic. Plenty of blame on both sides.

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

This and then some.

I know people hate Kyle, but it's crazy how people are pointing fingers at the offense for this. We made Ponder look like a legit QB for crying out loud.

Coming into that game the Vikings were near the bottom of the league in total offense and middle of the pack in points per game. 34 points matched their highest ouput in a game this season.

The offense didn't blow a 27-14 3rd quarter lead.

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

‏@kevins980

Can't believe anyone w/half a brain would put this loss on Kyle. The D gave up 34 pts on 50 plays! Vikes scored on 6 of 8 drives! Please.

This isn't 1 game boo-hoo Kyle must go. This is the culmination of years. Don't worry, Haslett will get his. But this is a Shanahan team.
Kyle leads the league in WR's and TE's lined up alongside and behind the QB. Im sure we lead the league in QB hits- even on RB runs. Kyle is wreckless and unnecessary. He treats a Ferrari like a Jeep wrangler.
DC is an attractive team when overlooking Snyder. Coaches and players will want to be here.
Mike cannot continue to be the highest paid coach in NFL with this production. The fact he hired his son for such a highly important position is counter productive and irresponsible.
Mike has to go down with the ship and Kyle has to as well.
It makes zero sense to hang our hats on an effective run game with Alfred, then to abandon Alf in favor of Robert to run. there comes a point in games when the other team knows what is being called, its about putting a hat on a hat and fighting for yards. Alfred can make the first 1-3 guys miss, the zone blocking can open him cut back holes, Young is a great blocker.
Why is that Kyle needs a playaction for a pass play to occur? We almost never see it on 3rd and 15 or in final 2mins when trailing = B/C he knows when we need to move the ball or score to cut out the bullshit and just fuk'n do it.
Yeah, Haslett called a horrible game. The greater evil Kyle. Robert, Alf, Reed, Garcon, and crew and be more successful w/o Kyle and I garruntee that Robert would not have been hurt and the 2013 season ruined if we didn't have KYLE.
Kyle has to go now.
Let Mike miss a few tanning bed appointments and absorb play calling duties until season end when we fire him.
This team is F'kd.
the answer is evident when asked- has the Shanahan family affair been good or bad for the Skins? And why would we want to prolong and enable any further.
Defense lost this game but are you really going to defend Kyle when the Offense ran all over a dismal Vikings defense? I think Kyle held the offense back even more so (opening drive, dumb ass pistol looks, scripted option keeps)

Robert already has a Heisman. NFL is NFL football.
Is Kyle just using the Redskins to have a NCAA job offer? He will never be an NFL HC. That is partly why Mike came to DC to 1. get into the HOF 2. get Kyle a HC job. That is undeniable.

[Meks]

And that WAS SENT FROM A DROID!!! DAMNIT.

[Meks]

Oh and the refs blew donkey dick, hard.

[Arrrgh!]

Alls I know is that I feel like crying. What a shitty game.

[WillH]

Yeah the refs missed every penalty that should've been called on the Vikings, that said our guys are idiots for that after the whistle crap. In fact it cost us a couple of scores possibly.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Better on Thursday night than Sunday morning, I feel like all of us who are on the cliff will back away by Sunday and enjoy our day. I want the other teams in our division to lose, but I won't be watching and getting upset.

Its been all down hill after the Ravens game last year, when RGIII's knee whipped like it did, even though we kept winning, in hindsight that was the end. Took our O too long to get going, and with our defense we have, we need them every second of every game.

I hope RGIII makes it through this year healthy, keeps working out his leg in the off season, comes back with no brace next year and we just kill it.

For the Shanny's they better hope so, its their 5th year.

[Bucket]

Guys we never stopped running.

Defense blew it today.

[ethat001]

That sucked.

But in all fairness, both Reed and Garcon miss catches that put this into overtime. Our offense fizzled at halftime, but our D is who lost this game. RG3 had 3 TDs and almost 300yds, Morris / Garcon >100 yds --> we need a better defense to keep us in games. Fletch is too old, our Dlinemen are getting no pressure, and our secondary is wilting.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by ethat001

That sucked.

But in all fairness, both Reed and Garcon miss catches that put this into overtime. Our offense fizzled at halftime, but our D is who lost this game. RG3 had 3 TDs and almost 300yds, Morris / Garcon >100 yds --> we need a better defense to keep us in games. Fletch is too old, our Dlinemen are getting no pressure, and our secondary is wilting.

Garcon could have made that catch, but Reed was being held/pi'd and had to whip his head around to make that catch. He would have made the play without the penalty, which shockingly the refs missed. I don't fault Reed for that, should've been 1st and goal at the 1.

[Meks]

We did never stop running, but its the timing of the calls thay kill us.the most... great job of running down the field in the 4league min drill... bad job of calling a fade on fourth and goal to a 5'8 WR... wen u have 5a other weapons, just bad and inexusable

[sdskinsfan2001]

I went and grabbed another beer and finished venting, my conclusion is this year wasn't our year, my new goal for the rest of the season is to keep RGIII healthy, and keep giving him reps for the next 7 games.

Our O with a healthy RGIII, Garcon, Reed, and some new linemen via free agency/draft will be nice. I think we'll have an elite offense again next year.

The D, if we can just get to mediocre, we can do some winning.

To all the in game thread people, sorry for being 90% negative, but damn if this team isn't so frustrating.

[los panda]

it's like my neighbor's cat shit in my mouth

[sdskinsfan2001]

As a side bar this weeks episode of Big Bang Theory was awesome, and Kaley Cuoco is unbelievably hot.

I like to assume she's a Skins fan.

Hail!!!!

Band of brothers and sisters in this thread. Go Skins! We're gonna get there soon.