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Old 04-20-2016, 04:00 PM   #46
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Old 04-20-2016, 04:40 PM   #47
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The Iggles have now spent 34 million dollars and a slew of picks on three QBs.
With the 2nd overall pick in the draft, the Eagles pick ...

Jaylon Smith.
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Old 04-20-2016, 04:56 PM   #48
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But seriously ...

I just don't follow college ball close enough. Are Goff and Wentz more of a "sure thing" than Winston and Mariotta were last year? To me, it seems they are a cut below both of them. This smacks of desperation to me.

If they do go QB, then the QB's will have gone 1 and 2 three times in the last four years (2012, 2015, & 2016). The three times before 2012 QB's went 1 & 2 were: 1999 (Tim Couch, McNabb (Akili Smith went No. 3); 1998 (Manning, Leaf); and 1993 (Bledsoe, Rick Mirer).

Here's hoping that whoever they chose is the next Rick Mirer (Sure, it would be nice if it turned into an epic fail of Leaf-like proportions but just don't see that happening).
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Old 04-20-2016, 05:02 PM   #49
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But seriously ...

I just don't follow college ball close enough. Are Goff and Wentz more of a "sure thing" than Winston and Mariotta were last year? To me, it seems they are a cut below both of them. This smacks of desperation to me.

If they do go QB, then the QB's will have gone 1 and 2 three times in the last four years (2012, 2015, & 2016). The three times before 2012 QB's went 1 & 2 were: 1999 (Tim Couch, McNabb (Akili Smith went No. 3); 1998 (Manning, Leaf); and 1993 (Bledsoe, Rick Mirer).

Here's hoping that whoever they chose is the next Rick Mirer (Sure, it would be nice if it turned into an epic fail of Leaf-like proportions but just don't see that happening).
I think teams are desperate or are making QB choices for the wrong reason (or bit of both).

The Rams trade up to #1 is purely showboating by their owner IMO. He wants a popular QB from the area (Goff) to sell tickets. And the fact that he was too busy trying to move the team to LA and leave the teams in the hands of Mr. Mediocrity.

The Eagles trade is desperation, as they don't want to gamble on Bradfords health or Chase Daniel. I think they could have gotten by with those two QBs and either develop a QB or have high enough of a pick next year to get one.
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As a skins fan I'm stoked!!! LMAO the eagles are so desperate, If the Browns pass up on wentz and Goff what does that tell u? Now I know anything is possible but cmon...
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Old 04-20-2016, 05:18 PM   #51
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But seriously ...

I just don't follow college ball close enough. Are Goff and Wentz more of a "sure thing" than Winston and Mariotta were last year? To me, it seems they are a cut below both of them. This smacks of desperation to me.

If they do go QB, then the QB's will have gone 1 and 2 three times in the last four years (2012, 2015, & 2016). The three times before 2012 QB's went 1 & 2 were: 1999 (Tim Couch, McNabb (Akili Smith went No. 3); 1998 (Manning, Leaf); and 1993 (Bledsoe, Rick Mirer).

Here's hoping that whoever they chose is the next Rick Mirer (Sure, it would be nice if it turned into an epic fail of Leaf-like proportions but just don't see that happening).
Goff is the hard one to judge. He played really good at times but was inconsistent. However, he played on a trash team. His OL sucked horribly and he showed good poise in the pocket dealing with the rush and also was good at completing throws while under pressure.

I still havent gotten what people see in Wentz. While he is an athletic QB with good arm skills. He completed a horrible percentage when under pressure. He also played on a stacked team for his division so was rarely under pressure or was rarely throwing to receivers that were covered (his backup went 7-0 this year when Wentz was hurt, so pretty stacked team). He did play in a pro offense, so his adjustment wont be as big as Goffs. I get that he should be drafted, maybe even in the first round due to QBs being given a multiple round jump on their rankings due to the position. But talk about him as 1 or 2 to me is way to high.

Of course, Tom Brady went in the 6th as well as Leaf, Russell, RG3, and a few others going at the top so its somewhat of a crap shoot with QBs. Wentz may turn out to be a stud but from what limited film I have seen about him doesnt make me think he is the next great thing in the NFL. I think Wentz needs a couple of years backing up imo. The problem is you draft a QB early now in the NFL and they are force fed the starting position and a fair amount get ruined by impatient coaches and GMs.
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Oh how I love to see dysfunction in our opponents:

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Old 04-20-2016, 07:48 PM   #53
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So Bradford is upset?
U mad bro?
Ha ha...
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You've never done anything n the NFL.
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Old 04-21-2016, 02:13 AM   #54
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surprised the browns decided against a QB. RG3 isn't going to look good behind that line this year, and fans are going to be pretty mad. long term it helps them though, assuming that can grab a QB next year (there's a good chance they could get another top 5 pick).

the iggles... man. they'll be paying something like 31m/31m/13m for 3 qbs over the next 2-3 years. i don't really understand the plan there.
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Old 04-21-2016, 09:16 AM   #56
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So Bradford is upset?
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Ha ha...
You are overpaid.
You've never done anything n the NFL.
Nor will you.
Well you have to give Sam Bradford credit. He has made himself a shit load on money through the years. He's going to retire a very rich man for someone that is about as average as average gets.
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surprised the browns decided against a QB. RG3 isn't going to look good behind that line this year, and fans are going to be pretty mad. long term it helps them though, assuming that can grab a QB next year (there's a good chance they could get another top 5 pick).

the iggles... man. they'll be paying something like 31m/31m/13m for 3 qbs over the next 2-3 years. i don't really understand the plan there.
It's actually pretty wise of the Browns to trade down. There's probably a better QB class coming out next year than this year. That being said, I didn't really get to keep up with college ball much this past year, but I kept up with it enough to know in the past of what teams would have. This year, just seems like an off year for college QBs. I guess we'll find out!
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:51 PM   #58
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I have a lot of respect for Mike Mayock's draft prospect opinions, so I'm posting his just released Top 100 list. I'll have this list close by on Thursday night.

Mike Mayock unveils his top 100 prospect rankings for the 2016 NFL Draft.

1. Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
2. Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State
3. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
4. Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
5. Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
6. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
7. DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
8. Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
9. Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
10. Jared Goff, QB, Cal
11. Leonard Floyd, LB, Georgia
12. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
13. Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
14. Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
15. Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama
16. William Jackson III, CB, Houston
17. A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama
18. Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State
19. Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia
20. Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
21. Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Ole Miss
22. Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
23. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
24. Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama
25. Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
26. Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
27. Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
28. Germain Ifedi, OT, Texas A&M
29. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
30. Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
31. Vernon Butler, DE, Louisiana Tech
32. Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
33. Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State
34. Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame
35. Jihad Ward, DE, Illinois
36. Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana
37. Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
38. Nick Martin, OG, Notre Dame
39. Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA
40. Kamalei Correa, LB, Boise State
41. Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama
42. Cody Whitehair, OG, Kansas State
43. Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma
44. Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
45. Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State
46. Joshua Garnett, OG, Stanford
47. Artie Burns, CB, Miami (Fla.)
48. Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
49. Jerell Adams, TE, South Carolina
50. Carl Nassib, DE, Penn State
51. Devontae Booker, RB, Utah
52. Su'a Cravens, LB, USC
53. Le'Raven Clark, OT, Texas Tech
54. Javon Hargrave, DT, South Carolina State
55. Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State
56. Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh
57. Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State
58. Keanu Neal, S, Florida
59. Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State
60. Austin Hooper, TE, Stanford
61. Sheldon Day, DT, Notre Dame
62. Deion Jones, LB, LSU
63. Jordan Jenkins, LB, Georgia
64. Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama
65. Jonathan Bullard, DT, Florida
66. Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech
67. Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska
68. Adolphus Washington, DT, Ohio State
69. Christian Westerman, OG, Arizona State
70. Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State
71. Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
72. Ronald Blair, DE, Appalachian State
73. T.J. Green, S, Clemson
74. Kenyan Drake, RB, Alabama
75. Halapoulivaati Vaitai, OT, TCU
76. Will Redmond, CB, Mississippi State
77. Bronson Kaufusi, DE, BYU
78. Xavien Howard, CB, Baylor
79. Max Tuerk, C, USC
80. Shon Coleman, OT, Auburn
81. KeiVarae Russell, S, Notre Dame
82. Alex Lewis, OT, Nebraska
83. Sean Davis, S, Maryland
84. Nick Vannett, TE, Ohio State
85. Jatavis Brown, LB, Akron
86. Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan State
87. Quinton Jefferson, DT, Maryland
88. Justin Simmons, DT, Boston College
89. Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota
90. Joe Schobert, LB, Wisconsin
91. Joshua Perry, LB, Ohio State
92. Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri
93. Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
94. Evan Boehm, C, Missouri
95. Jordan Howard, RB, Indiana
96. Yannick Ngakoue, DE, Maryland
97. Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
98. Isaac Seumalo, OG, Oregon State
99. Joe Thuney, OG, North Carolina State
100. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State
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Old 04-26-2016, 07:38 PM   #59
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The mock drafts after the first 20 picks are all over the place. Hackenburg is being mentioned as a possible first now. And Mayock has him at #100.
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I'm only semi surprised that Hackenburg is mentioned in the 1st.
The QB situation in this league right now has gone apeshit.
We could see Glennon, Kapperdick, Foles, and Bradford all traded on draft day.
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