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View Poll Results: Case Keenum traded to the Skins, your thoughts?
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:21 PM   #1
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Help me understand how this makes sense? If the Cards wanted Keenum, why not just trade with Denver for him? Why use Washington as a middle man? Keenum is in the final year of his contract, so it is a one year deal regardless.

Why trade Rosen whose salary is strictly enforced by the rookie salary pool, to only absorb a veteran contract?

Keenums 2019 salary is $3.5m. Rosen is $570k.

Sorry, but a trade to Arizona by way of Washington does not add up.
Maybe AZ didn't want to give up picks, skins could deal Case and our 4 for Rosen
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:43 PM   #2
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Maybe AZ didn't want to give up picks, skins could deal Case and our 4 for Rosen
Skins do not have a 4th round pick. You have 5 total draft picks this year. Rounds 1,2,3,5 & 7.

What is everyones infatuation with twisting the Keenum trade into a deal for Rosen? In the highly unlikely event that Washington trade Keenum to AZ for Rosen, that means the Redskins would have made 3 major trades for the QB position in 2 years. That would have to be some kind of record.

Looks to be that you've acquired Keenum on a 1 year rental and his cap number almost matches McCoy. Very low at $3.5m. You draft a QB in this draft, and because of the rookie salary pool working in your favor, you can afford to carry 3 QBs on the roster, absorb the cap hit of Alex Smith ($20m) and still have some working room to sign a free agent or two. 3m for Colt, 3.5m for Case and about 570k for a rookie. Add that to Alex Smiths hit, it totals to 27m wrapped up in the QB position. I do not think you could improve that. Rogers & Carr make that alone in one season.

The other option is to 'flop from Fromm', who is predicted to be the 1st overall pick in the 2020 draft.
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Old 03-07-2019, 10:26 PM   #3
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins

How is this even remotely a bad move? What is the down side? We swapped picks next year. We got him for nothing. All this is, is Mark Sanchez insurance so we aren't in chaos mode again.

This will not be our week 1 starter.
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Old 03-07-2019, 10:33 PM   #4
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins

We didn't give up any draft picks (we only gave up a late round difference in position next year) and we picked up a quarterback who is either going to be a serviceable starter or a quality backup. And, he is on a cheap, one year contract.

I don't think you can argue this is a "bad" deal.
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Old 03-07-2019, 10:39 PM   #5
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins

If next years starter beats out Keenum and McCoy in open competition then we should have a descent QB Corp.. you could do a lot worse than those two as backups!
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Old 03-07-2019, 10:39 PM   #6
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins

If he plays well and earns a $15M year deal from some other team in 2020 he’ll bring a comp pick our way. Same goes for Colt actually. The Skins are smart to get guys affordably with at least some upside and let them play out their contract. It’s how you build up the comp picks. The Pats have been doing it for years.
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Old 03-08-2019, 03:38 AM   #7
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If he plays well and earns a $15M year deal from some other team in 2020 he’ll bring a comp pick our way. Same goes for Colt actually. The Skins are smart to get guys affordably with at least some upside and let them play out their contract. It’s how you build up the comp picks. The Pats have been doing it for years.
Sheehan often describes Bruce Allen in free agency as the guy "that gets great deals on average players"... Seems it's also accurate about trades !
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:11 AM   #8
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins

I really don't have a problem with Keenum. Colt simply can not be counted on to stay healthy. I just don't want either starting any games for us.
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:57 AM   #9
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins

I'm glad the Redskins didn't trade for Rosen...that would have meant giving up a higher draft pick....I'm okay with the trade for Keenum...Keenum will only account for 3.5 million dollars against the cap....in reviewing his career statistics and highlights he'll throw more touchdowns than interceptions for damn sure...the front office knows what they are doing...hopefully Brett Rypien will still be available in the 3rd round.
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Old 03-08-2019, 08:59 AM   #10
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hoping we still can get rosen as long it,s not for our 1 round pick,plus they skins front office might be thinking that alex coming back next year considering all the money we owe him ,but i think that ship has sailed and his carreer is over even if he doesn,t have that surgery
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I'm glad the Redskins didn't trade for Rosen...that would have meant giving up a higher draft pick....I'm okay with the trade for Keenum...Keenum will only account for 3.5 million dollars against the cap....in reviewing his career statistics and highlights he'll throw more touchdowns than interceptions for damn sure...the front office knows what they are doing...hopefully Brett Rypien will still be available in the 3rd round.
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins

Case Keenum and Alex Smith have very similar numbers from 2018:

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Keenum (70.0) Smith (70.2)

Yards per attempt:
Keenum (6.6) Smith (6.6)

Passer rating under pressure:
Keenum (52.2) Smith (52.0)

Passer rating when clean:
Keenum (94.9) Smith (98.2)
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Old 03-08-2019, 09:47 AM   #13
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins

This move just affirms my belief that you guys will take a QB early in this draft. Case Keenums role will be that of the old 'bridge' QB.
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This move just affirms my belief that you guys will take a QB early in this draft. Case Keenums role will be that of the old 'bridge' QB.
Either way Rosen / Lock / Jones.

You are correct, a QB will be drafted or brought in. Case is 31 Years old
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins

Nobody thinks Rosen is a "sure thing". But his ceiling is a hell of a lot higher than journeymen like Colt or Case.
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