One thing will never change.

mooby · 10-10-2005, 12:28 AM

people talk about portis, but the thing is i want to see rushing tds from him, i mean his yards are nice, but hey, tds are more important. i think it's time for portis to get serious and have a big day against the chiefs. this drought has to stop. but another person i'm impressed with is mark brunell. who would've thought in four games he'd have 6 tds and 2 ints? that's pretty damn good.

MTK · 10-10-2005, 12:29 AM

I don't care who gets them or how, bottom line is we need more TDs period.

We racked up over 400 yards today and moved the ball at will at times, with that kind of yardage we should be putting up 30+ points.

redrock-skins · 10-10-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't care who gets them or how, bottom line is we need more TDs period.

We racked up over 400 yards today and moved the ball at will at times, with that kind of yardage we should be putting up 30+ points.

Agreed. My grandfather told me a long time ago you can't put "we're moving the ball" on the scoreboard.

Daseal · 10-10-2005, 12:38 AM

The only thing I dislike with the offense thus far is our goal line packages for rushing, they simply don't seem to work. We need to find SOME way to punch it in, we're playing much better than I expected this year though, I don't feel as if we can complain TOO much.

hands11 · 10-10-2005, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

The only thing I dislike with the offense thus far is our goal line packages for rushing, they simply don't seem to work. We need to find SOME way to punch it in, we're playing much better than I expected this year though, I don't feel as if we can complain TOO much.

We still have problems run blocking. If you have the game tapes, watch the line. Dockery is a lot better pass blocker. He actually kind of suck run blocking.

The middle. all 3 of then havent been good at run blocking.

Also, Portis doenst do well following blocks. He misses a lot. Actually on the one run he ended up at the 2, that was an easy TD if he just following the block and took the last 3 yard to the left. It was wide open. Instead he kind of ran over the blocker and leaped. I dont understand. Hes supposed to be a lot better then that. It was an easy move to make.

hail_2_da_skins · 10-10-2005, 01:04 AM

Everytime I saw Tatum Bell break off tackle and race for 50+ yards, I was wondering, WHY IS LEVAR ARRINGTION ON THE BENCH? I've been watching Holdman closely and he is not spectacular. He gets blocked and caught up in traffic. When he does make the play he barely brings the runner down. When Levar gets to the carrier, he brings the PAIN. He hits with impact. Other than Sean Taylor, that's missing out there. The defense is not the reason we lost the game, but the Skins have an impact player riding the pine and it doesn't make sense. The Skins are not creating enough turnovers. They need their BIG HITTER out there. If the Skins are going to win with defense they need to invoke fear into their opponents. FREE ARRINGTON!!!

saskin · 10-10-2005, 01:11 AM

If Williams doesn't think Lavar can play, then thats fine by me. He knows him better than I. I think he'll progressively be worked in.

aprius · 10-10-2005, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins88

If Williams doesn't think Lavar can play, then thats fine by me. He knows him better than I. I think he'll progressively be worked in.

BullDinky! He is mad at LaVar and is taking retribution out on him by not letting him start or play so that he cant make some incentive clauses in his contract. It is total BS. I dont think you can stop LA from getting in the lineup when you consider how bad Holdman is and how great LA is but GW finds a way every game.

LongTimeSkinsFan · 10-10-2005, 07:40 AM

I agree. We are improving in many areas, although special teams has many needs that have to be addressed. It WAS nice to see us pull off a punt block yesterday, but I seriously question Thrash on punt returns (it seems like 95% of the time he FCs), and Betts, while he is consistent, just doesn't have the speed to break a KO return.

As stupid as it sounds, I really walked away from that game feeling like we were playing against the Broncos and the refs. I've always found it interesting that Shanahan's teams have always had an 'unusual' relationship with the referees. I don't know if its because of his whiney, plaintive nature or if it's something else going on, but even when he was running Oakland, they always seemed to get a few more calls there way than the other guy in each game.

Finally, I found it highly amusing that yet another 'sports analyst' (this one from Foxsports) underplays the Redskins effort in a game that they were 'supposed to lose'.

'Ian Gold's break-up of a Mark Brunell pass on a potential game-tying, late fourth quarter, two-point conversion attempt was the clutch play of the weekend. The ball seemed destined to land in David Patten's paws until Gold suddenly appeared out of nowhere and made an athletic and heady play to break it up. The Broncos didn't play their best, and that's what makes the 21-19 win against a quality Redskins team one to savor.'

Hmmm, we'll just ignore the fact that Portis ran for over 100 yds, Brunell passed for over 300, and several questionable officiating calls had a bearing on the final outcome (especially the 'not-fumble', 'not-safety' play). I would like to know how the referees are reviewed with regards to their performance, if at all. I know that in baseball, umpires are 'graded' on their adjudication of the game and their review is directly tied to incentives and in some cases even their continued tenure.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-10-2005, 07:53 AM

If we can stop the stupid penalties, I feel VERY positive we can take it to Kansas City BAD next week. Their defense is MUCH worse than Denver's.

56FAN · 10-10-2005, 08:05 AM

This one stings becuse we had the game and let it slip away.we did compete and after all the ref's inconsistancies, we still could have won. why didn't springs play? we need to use lavar on passing downs, just like marvin used him. just watching this team fight to come out of the funk and morass that this team has been in for soo long is both inspiring and agonizing.but they are still my team.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-10-2005, 08:30 AM

The Gibbs-mentality is coming through I see. This team has been in every game down to the bitter end, win or lose.

12thMan · 10-10-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Our offense looks great, but will consistant bad calls from the officials against us ever stop? That safety would have won the game for us. #()*

I'm starting to have flashbacks of the Green Bay game from last year. How many bad games can they possibly call against us?

Today on one of the local networks Joe Gibbs was extremely animated when commenting about the officiating. I've never, ever seen him remotley close to being that upset about something.

The bad calls are really getting old though.

10-10-2005, 12:28 AM	#1
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: One thing will never change. people talk about portis, but the thing is i want to see rushing tds from him, i mean his yards are nice, but hey, tds are more important. i think it's time for portis to get serious and have a big day against the chiefs. this drought has to stop. but another person i'm impressed with is mark brunell. who would've thought in four games he'd have 6 tds and 2 ints? that's pretty damn good. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

10-10-2005, 12:29 AM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: One thing will never change. I don't care who gets them or how, bottom line is we need more TDs period. We racked up over 400 yards today and moved the ball at will at times, with that kind of yardage we should be putting up 30+ points. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-10-2005, 12:38 AM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: One thing will never change. The only thing I dislike with the offense thus far is our goal line packages for rushing, they simply don't seem to work. We need to find SOME way to punch it in, we're playing much better than I expected this year though, I don't feel as if we can complain TOO much. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

10-10-2005, 01:04 AM	#6
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 69 Posts: 868	Re: One thing will never change. Everytime I saw Tatum Bell break off tackle and race for 50+ yards, I was wondering, WHY IS LEVAR ARRINGTION ON THE BENCH? I've been watching Holdman closely and he is not spectacular. He gets blocked and caught up in traffic. When he does make the play he barely brings the runner down. When Levar gets to the carrier, he brings the PAIN. He hits with impact. Other than Sean Taylor, that's missing out there. The defense is not the reason we lost the game, but the Skins have an impact player riding the pine and it doesn't make sense. The Skins are not creating enough turnovers. They need their BIG HITTER out there. If the Skins are going to win with defense they need to invoke fear into their opponents. FREE ARRINGTON!!!

10-10-2005, 01:11 AM	#7
saskin Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio Age: 37 Posts: 355	Re: One thing will never change. If Williams doesn't think Lavar can play, then thats fine by me. He knows him better than I. I think he'll progressively be worked in.

10-10-2005, 07:40 AM	#9
LongTimeSkinsFan Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: LaVale MD Age: 63 Posts: 515	Re: One thing will never change. I agree. We are improving in many areas, although special teams has many needs that have to be addressed. It WAS nice to see us pull off a punt block yesterday, but I seriously question Thrash on punt returns (it seems like 95% of the time he FCs), and Betts, while he is consistent, just doesn't have the speed to break a KO return. As stupid as it sounds, I really walked away from that game feeling like we were playing against the Broncos and the refs. I've always found it interesting that Shanahan's teams have always had an 'unusual' relationship with the referees. I don't know if its because of his whiney, plaintive nature or if it's something else going on, but even when he was running Oakland, they always seemed to get a few more calls there way than the other guy in each game. Finally, I found it highly amusing that yet another 'sports analyst' (this one from Foxsports) underplays the Redskins effort in a game that they were 'supposed to lose'. 'Ian Gold's break-up of a Mark Brunell pass on a potential game-tying, late fourth quarter, two-point conversion attempt was the clutch play of the weekend. The ball seemed destined to land in David Patten's paws until Gold suddenly appeared out of nowhere and made an athletic and heady play to break it up. The Broncos didn't play their best, and that's what makes the 21-19 win against a quality Redskins team one to savor.' Hmmm, we'll just ignore the fact that Portis ran for over 100 yds, Brunell passed for over 300, and several questionable officiating calls had a bearing on the final outcome (especially the 'not-fumble', 'not-safety' play). I would like to know how the referees are reviewed with regards to their performance, if at all. I know that in baseball, umpires are 'graded' on their adjudication of the game and their review is directly tied to incentives and in some cases even their continued tenure. __________________ ...skins fan since 72 and still breathin'!

10-10-2005, 07:53 AM	#10
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: One thing will never change. If we can stop the stupid penalties, I feel VERY positive we can take it to Kansas City BAD next week. Their defense is MUCH worse than Denver's. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-10-2005, 08:05 AM	#11
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 63 Posts: 323	Re: One thing will never change. This one stings becuse we had the game and let it slip away.we did compete and after all the ref's inconsistancies, we still could have won. why didn't springs play? we need to use lavar on passing downs, just like marvin used him. just watching this team fight to come out of the funk and morass that this team has been in for soo long is both inspiring and agonizing.but they are still my team.

10-10-2005, 08:30 AM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: One thing will never change. The Gibbs-mentality is coming through I see. This team has been in every game down to the bitter end, win or lose. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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