Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

[mooby]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Before the details of the CBA were made public, this is what was reported, but turns out it’s not quite true. Several weeks ago, it was clarified that losing the accrued season only applies to players with less than 3 or 4 years in the league. Trent is a vested veteran, so the rule does not apply to him. The part that still does apply is the fines, and that the team is not allowed to waive them. So Trent can hold out as long as he did last year as long as he’s ok losing the money.

Source? It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that this is the first time I'm hearing about this. Game changer if true.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by mooby

Source? It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that this is the first time I'm hearing about this. Game changer if true.

I heard it in sheehans, Keim’s and Finlays podcasts, but i did some googling and found it here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...-trade-demand/

At the bottom:

Correction: An earlier version of this article said that a clause in the NFL’s new collective bargaining agreement won’t allow veteran players to get credit for a season if they don’t report to training camp. In fact, this clause only applies to veteran players with three or fewer NFL seasons. Players who have been in the NFL for more than three seasons will face daily $50,000 fines but will not lose credit for their season if they fail to report for training camp

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by mooby

Not doable with the new CBA. If he doesn't show up for training camp, he loses his final accrued season towards FA. And if he leaves camp for more than 5 days he also loses it. Not sure the Redskins can waive that either (they can't waive the daily fines he also accrues if he misses camp).

I learned something new. Thank you. Well that muddies the already muddy waters a bit.

Surprised players signed off on that and the non-waiving of team fines. Good for the owners.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I learned something new. Thank you. Well that muddies the already muddy waters a bit.

Surprised players signed off on that and the non-waiving of team fines. Good for the owners.

Sorry Sunny, that post is no longer valid. Doesn't apply to players with more than 3 years of experience. So Trent can hold out all he wants.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Sorry Sunny, that post is no longer valid. Doesn't apply to players with more than 3 years of experience. So Trent can hold out all he wants.

It would damage his value way too much. He can be out 2 years at 33 years old at the start of 2021 season and expect a heavy guaranteed money deal.

[sdskinsfan2001]

No more signing guys with any non guaranteed years at the end. Clearly players are signing those to get all their money asap with no intention of playing out the whole contract. Gotta dangle that carrot every year.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

No more signing guys with any non guaranteed years at the end. Clearly players are signing those to get all their money asap with no intention of playing out the whole contract. Gotta dangle that carrot every year.

Amen.

Albert Haynesworth ... how we didnt learn from that front loaded deal is beyond me. I still 100% think he and his agent had every intent of forcing himself out of the contract after the 18 months or whatever it was for all that guaranteed money ... when they signed the contract.

They signed that with bad faith.

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One possible way to correct the problem (and teams do this all the time to create current cap space) ... just convert some salary now to guaranteed money on the back end.

If its for a vet you know you want to keep for the lifetime of the contract anyway, then theres no harm (unless that player suffers a career ending injury) .. in which case you would have to do a medical settlement/release anyway.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Everytime a new post pops up in this thread I hope it's someone breaking the news 1st that we finally traded him. One day this will be the case.

[Chico23231]

Trent not sitting this year or missing time. It would tarnish his brand and teams not gonna bother with him after sitting two years, that’s too long. The deal he would get wouldn’t have a lot of guaranteed money money..and that’s been the sticking point all along.

Trents playing this year, stone cold lock

[skinsfaninok]

JP said this morning that there is no chance the skins get anything higher than a 4th for Trent.. Even said there has been very little discussion of a trade

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

JP said this morning that there is no chance the skins get anything higher than a 4th for Trent.. Even said there has been very little discussion of a trade

Geez.. I'm not sure how I want Redskins to handle this - I definitely do not want Redskins to simply give away Williams without getting a good compensation in return. BUT I want this problem to go away ASAP so Redskins can move forward with the players who want to play for Redskins.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Geez.. I'm not sure how I want Redskins to handle this - I definitely do not want Redskins to simply give away Williams without getting a good compensation in return. BUT I want this problem to go away ASAP so Redskins can move forward with the players who want to play for Redskins.

I don't think he'd sit 2 years in a row.. If they can't deal him then make him play

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Geez.. I'm not sure how I want Redskins to handle this - I definitely do not want Redskins to simply give away Williams without getting a good compensation in return. BUT I want this problem to go away ASAP so Redskins can move forward with the players who want to play for Redskins.

I agree on the bolded part. In this first year of a team build where a culture change is the foundation I do not want a high profile disgruntled player in the building. Truly, if I were in RR's shoes I would cut him and take the comp pick before I allowed him to be around my team every day.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I agree on the bolded part. In this first year of a team build where a culture change is the foundation I do not want a high profile disgruntled player in the building. Truly, if I were in RR's shoes I would cut him and take the comp pick before I allowed him to be around my team every day.

" cut him and take the comp pick" ? If they cut him they do not get a comp pick.

Hold on to him and eventually they will get a decent offer. There will be good teams desperate for a good tackle. And Trent will not sit for two years.

Someone is way off on Trent's value. Here is a trade that would be great.

https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/20...-with-vikings/

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

" cut him and take the comp pick" ? If they cut him they do not get a comp pick.

Hold on to him and eventually they will get a decent offer. There will be good teams desperate for a good tackle. And Trent will not sit for two years.

Someone is way off on Trent's value. Here is a trade that would be great.

https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/20...-with-vikings/

I would be more than happy with that trade. Reiff is not good, but he is fine as a stop-gap. This is a deep WR class, so the extra 4th and 5th rounders this year would let us take fliers on a couple of them.