Redskins vs. Giants Gameday thread, Opener 2009

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

You can't win with Randle-El as your leading receiver. Where the hell were the plays to Kelly? At least a screen? In the pre-season, he caught a screen pass and stiff-armed his way to a first down. He's the only guy we have on the team that can do that. Why not run that play at least once? Against their second string corners? I just don't get it. A run on third and 8... 3 runs when were backed up against their own end zone. Just pathetic.

Exactly!!! Where was Kelly? Where was Thomas? Where was Fred Davis? Where was Marko Mitchell?..

Too add to that Betts looked horrible. The dropped passes and the horrible running. I am not even going to go there...lol.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Exactly!!! Where was Kelly? Where was Thomas? Where was Fred Davis? Where was Marko Mitchell?..

Too add to that Betts looked horrible. The dropped passes and the horrible running. I am not even going to go there...lol.

exactly if your gonna activate them, then play them.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

exactly if your gonna activate them, then play them.

Yeah it makes no sense to hype them up then not use them. We basically used the same plaeyrs we used 2 years ago. Why are we not utilizing these players? Why? I know its the first agme. But did Thomas even get a ball thrown his way. I know Malcom had one catch. if moss can't get his head in the game. He needs to tak ea seat until he does.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Yeah it makes no sense to hype them up then not use them. We basically used the same plaeyrs we used 2 years ago. Why are we not utilizing these players? Why? I know its the first agme. But did Thomas even get a ball thrown his way. I know Mitchell had one catch. if moss can't get his head in the game. He needs to tak ea seat until he does.

We couldn't get our #1, 2, and 4 receivers involved whatsoever. What makes you think Mitchell could have done anything?

[GMScud]

Speaking of El, he looked solid in the slot. Today was a VERY productive receiving day by his standards. I, too, would like to know where Kelly was. Santana's head obviously wasn't in the game, and Zorn mentioned in the presser that the Giants were constantly rolling a safety to his side to take him away.

Cooley and ARE accounted for 16 of JC's 19 completions.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Speaking of El, he looked solid in the slot. Today was a VERY productive receiving day by his standards. I, too, would like to know where Kelly was. Santana's head obviously wasn't in the game, and Zorn mentioned in the presser that the Giants were constantly rolling a safety to his side to take him away.

Cooley and ARE accounted for 16 of JC's 19 completions.

Something you tend to see from rookie QBs... dump downs to their TE, slot receiver and running backs. BTW, Brodie Croyle - 16-24 for 177 yards, 2 TDs and no INTs against the RAVENS.

[CultBrennan59]

look, we lost to a really good opponent and its the first game of the season. Yes we played dumb and awfully stupid at times (Campbell throwing a pick 3 yards past the line of scrimmage...DeAngelo Hall playing 20 yards from the line of scrimmage the whole game), but like I said it's the first game and a great opponent AT their place. Next week we play St. Louis who played just like they did last year. IF we lose to them then you all better hit the panick button and start listening to all the analysts saying that we're gonna suck this season. Also I feel that Moss wasn't running as hard as he could. He better forget this game and be ready to play next week. Cooley played great and looked better than witten did today. But he also didn't block someone and got an earful from Zorn. Zorn himself called some STUPID plays (three straight run plays from the giants 10 yard line...and a run on 3 & 8 after we called a timeout, and no plays towards Kelly or a screen to portis...running a trick play the second play of the game and not having randel el throw it away), but Zorn will rebound next week I'm sure to. Haynesworth plays his ass off every play and will eventually sack Eli as will Orakpo. Fletcher is a great MLB and better not get ripped off from the pro bowl voting again.

[CultBrennan59]

o ya and laron landry was going out there today to get revenge on Brandon Jacobs, but I think Fletcher took care of that for him. Stupid penalty by LaRon hitting him way out of bounds.

[skinsfan_nn]

Redskin Insider: Huh....I think it was a good hook up at the end of the game when it was over..?

Posted at 9:03 PM ET, 09/13/2009
Campbell-to-Cooley Is Only Offensive TD

Tight end Chris Cooley scored the Redskins' only offensive touchdown on a 17-yard pass from Jason Campbell with 90 seconds remaining in the game. Though the play did little more than change the final score, it is somewhat significant because Cooley scored only one touchdown a year ago, and that came on a pass from receiver Antwaan Randle El.

"I think it was a good hook-up between Jason and I," Cooley said. "We noticed what coverage they were playing on that drive, and that the middle of the field was open. We felt like we were going to get that play at some point during that drive."

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DeAngelo Hall rates his performance: "I feel like the guy that just couldn't make a play to save my life," he said. Steinberg has the news over at the Bog.

[SBXVII]

I think there were break downs across the board. O-line was not blocking. HC never figured out a way around that issue. Portis only had like 2 half decent runs. Betts still sucks although he did as good as Cartwright on KR. This is where I like to say I told you so, cause I told you all Betts could do that job as good or better. He has done it before. ARE had a great showing and so did Cooley. I'm not sure what JC's problem is. Does he walk up to the line and over think the defense? Is he sitting there always trying to change the play vs. just running the damn play given? Why does he only feel comfortable with 4 people? Moss, Cooley, Portis, and ARE? Did he not practice all summer with Thomas? Kelly?

When you out matched talent wise the best thing to do is take the other team off their game. The Giants did just that. The Skins allowed the Giants to man handle them and take them off their game. I don't think the better team won, instead the smartest team won. They found a way to win. Touche'.

The unfortunate thing is everyone else won. Now we are 1 game behind. It's going to be a long season and if it is....any bets on who's the next HC?

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think there were break downs across the board. O-line was not blocking. HC never figured out a way around that issue. Portis only had like 2 half decent runs. Betts still sucks although he did as good as Cartwright on KR. This is where I like to say I told you so, cause I told you all Betts could do that job as good or better. He has done it before. ARE had a great showing and so did Cooley. I'm not sure what JC's problem is. Does he walk up to the line and over think the defense? Is he sitting there always trying to change the play vs. just running the damn play given? Why does he only feel comfortable with 4 people? Moss, Cooley, Portis, and ARE? Did he not practice all summer with Thomas? Kelly?

When you out matched talent wise the best thing to do is take the other team off their game. The Giants did just that. The Skins allowed the Giants to man handle them and take them off their game. I don't think the better team won, instead the smartest team won. They found a way to win. Touche'.

The unfortunate thing is everyone else won. Now we are 1 game behind. It's going to be a long season and if it is....any bets on who's the next HC?

AMEN. I am not going down the backup RBs road again tho..lol.

Someone who started this game. Might be deactivated in the next game. We need to use our weapons. If Portis couldn't get going. You know Betts wasn't going to at RB. I am going to leave it at that. Betts screen pass. That's his whole game. Catching the dump off. I honestly dont think he is the only one that can do it.

[mooby]

I guess my only thing for now is that all the hype that I usually never listen to actually did something for me. In between reading all the reports throughout training camp from places like the Redskins Blog and the others, and in the final two preseason games, I really thought we were coming on strong and that we would be ready to play and stand up to the Giants today. Sure I didn't think we'd just stomp all over the Giants in their place but I thought it would be a legit battle that would go down to the wire, and based on our up-tempo offense against the Pats and Jacksonville I figured we'd play the same way tonight. It was just a huge letdown. I should've seen the defensive breakdowns coming because they couldn't get off the field on third downs during the preseason and I also saw shoddy tackling too. I just didn't think our offense would look anything like what it looked like tonight and that was the part that left me in disbelief.

The good thing is that all of the problems we had are completely correctable and it's only the first game of the season so we have plenty of time left to fix our mistakes and start playing good football. I guess there's just a part of me that thinks that maybe this coaching staff, no matter how hard they try, might not get it done, or instead might just act like this never happened and continue on, or in JZ's case, just continue calling plays like he thought it actually worked against the Giants against a similar upcoming defense. I just want us to learn from our mistakes, not just the players, but the coaching staff too. That's the only way JZ, JC, and the rest of the team will be successful this season. Otherwise the JZ era will be shortlived because we all know what Dan can and probably will do.

[CRedskinsRule]

I don't know where else to say this, but really, we know we can beat Dal, we know we can beat Philly. Can we just beat the Giants please. They seem to have our number, and I think its as much mental as it is on the field. somehow someway, we need to beat them when they come to Fedex later this year.
Thanks for listening

[DBUCHANON101]

Ill take a QB with a W instead of a QB with a 100+ rating and a L. just sayin

[MTK]

JC is under such a microscope it's ridiculous.

You can pick apart anyone's stats, take away this, take away that. In the end it's a pointless debate. His numbers are what they are. How about this, take away his 2 turnovers and it's a different game.