The Season Is Over

RedskinRat · 10-15-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskin

Once again morons come out and pin a whole game on one man's shoulders, I must apluad that. I mean portis did have a really great game didnt he? Sean Taylor and Washington did drop pics that would have prevented points, but kno your right Brunnel should have been there to pick those balls off and run for Portis. I really think Redskins fans maybe the stupidest fans in football, fanwise this might have been the worste home game ever.

You must be new to the Redskins as a team if you think this is a one game critique. How many times has Brunell shown the leadership qualities and QB talent to win a game that was lost? Not enough for us to blindly believe he'll drag us back from the brink of a done season this early on.

jermus22 · 10-15-2006, 10:03 PM

I am by no means a Brunell hater, but it would probably be a good idea to bring in Campbell so he can be groomed for the future. He isn't going to get better sitting on the sidelines, and with four losses this early in a tough schedule, our playoff hopes are but scrapped.

GTripp0012 · 10-15-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

Oh yeah man, Portis and his over 4 yards a carry and 2 touchdowns were garbage today. Why don't you look up some stats before you start shooting off your mouth? I never said it was all Brunell's fault, I put a lot of it on the defense, and that may not have been directed at me, but trying to call out Clinton is just ignorant. If anybody ever had to back off of the damn line then maybe Clinton could get close 5 yards a carry, but when passes barely go 5 yards from the line of scrimmage it's kinda impressive that he runs as well as he does. So don't give me this crap about Clinton. The only problem with him was that he didn't get the damn ball enough.

But as long as we are calling out people on an offense that moved the ball, why not call out Clinton. His stats today were no more impressive than Brunells.

Disclaimer: I do not blame either Clinton Portis or Mark Brunell for the loss.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-15-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But as long as we are calling out people on an offense that moved the ball, why not call out Clinton. His stats today were no more impressive than Brunells.

Disclaimer: I do not blame either Clinton Portis or Mark Brunell for the loss.

It's kinda hard to hate on someone for lack of production when they hardly touch the ball. He averaged about 4.0 ypc and got 2 TDs; so he was productive when he had the ball, he just didn't get it a lot.

Pocket$ $traight · 10-15-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chris36

Another wasted year, with over paid free agents. All the teams that traded with the Redskins and got draft choices are happy as hell. There draft choices should be within the top 10. If we are lucky. here's what I say. Let go Gibbs coach and get a real general manager. One like Bobby Bethard.

I am really upset over today's loss and I think it is time for us to do something. I am just like everyone else, I drank the Kool-aid this offseason (and countless others). This organization is a farce and I really think that every true fan should boycott Fed-Ex field until they hire a General Manager with credentials. The marketing blitz is all that Snyder cares about. I know that he wants them to win as much as anybody but there is one thing that he definitely cares about more than winning and that is making money. As long as this team is geared for generating cash, we are going to be a second rate franchise and that is exactly what we are today. We are not a Football Team. We are a cash cow centered around guys who play football. I am tired of it. How the fuck do we let a goddamned rookie QB walk into our house and embarrass us?

I am sick and tired of being sick and tired. I truly wish that Dan Snyder would get picked up by the IRS because I firmly believe that they will never contend until he is gone.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-16-2006, 08:45 AM

Yes, the season is over.

Even with a win against Indianapolis, there is no way this team goes 8-2 to make the playoffs. I don't believe there's any magic pill for the defense. They simply are not good. It's almost the same defense that's been fielded the past two years, except with a few more "upgrades".

Even with Springs coming back (who actually played fairly well on whomever he covered), there's nothing that's going to get that swagger back. I listened to the report on the way home from the game, and Rogers has a broken thumb, and Washington's hip injury is far worse than they are letting on.

On the offense, Mark Brunell is done. I'm done being an apologist for him. He looks for Cooley or Moss, then he throws it away. If you look at the actual "play-making" QBs in this league, and yes they exist, they spread the ball around and make things happen. When he FINALLY threw to Brandon Lloyd's strength, look what happened, a big gain. I blamed Patten a lot last year for not catching passes or getting open, but Lloyd apparently is having the Patten syndrome himself.

Eli Manning knows what to do. If you have a person who can go up and catch a jump ball, you throw it high in single coverage and let your playmakers make plays. Something needs to shake up this offense, and to be perfectly honest, I don't think Al Saunders is the ticket. They said it on the radio on the way home, this offense has no identity. Last year, it was smash mouth football that set up the deep pass. This year, and I'm quoting the radio: "It's like a new adventure with every series."

Reverses on first down, three yard passes on first down, three yard outs on third and long? Where does it end? I PREFERRED Gibbs playcalling last year. I mean at least he played to the offense's strengths. Portis is your work horse, you run him and let the offensive line wear down the opposition, rather than forcing your team into three and outs by throwing consecutive passes.

On a side note, my love for the Redskins lessened just a little bit yesterday. I know it's a loss, and I know I'd be pissed too, but there wouldn't be football without us fans. Now, I think I've made my opinion adamantly clear in the past on famous people's salaries, but that's neither here nor there. Dozens of people waited long after the game to maybe get some autographs or a picture taken with one of their favorite players. I think it's total 100% horseshit when a player cannot take five minutes out of his busy schedule to sign a few autographs. The people that I am naming in particular are Portis, Moss and Brunell. So you're a big star? I don't give a fuck. You should be wiping our asses considering the money we pay to pay YOU your millions. Apparently it's the backups who are the ones willing to give something back to the fans. Backups and Marcus Washington.

Marcus Washington is one of the most selfless people I've seen in such a high profile position. He stayed at least twenty minutes signing autographs and taking pictures. He said, "OK guys, last one." at least twenty times, and always seemed to have another one in him. That's the type of player you want on your team. This behavior is win or lose. I've been there for wins and I've been there for losses, but always the first people out, without stopping for fans are Moss, Portis and Brunell.

Chris Samuels, Renaldo Wynn and Rocky McIntosh, all get free passes because they all signed for a while. I just ask that the players remember where they came from and remember who TRULY pays their salaries. It wasn't the loss that made me lose a little love, it was more of a disillusionment with a few of the so-calling "stars" of this franchise that really pissed me off.

irish · 10-16-2006, 09:01 AM

The season is over and so is the easy part of the schedule. The skins will be lucky to go 1-2 over their next 3 games. This is a bad team. The coaching is bad and so are the players. I really blame this crummy season on the coaches as teams go top down and the mess starts at the top with Gibbs and goes down from there.

724Skinsfan · 10-16-2006, 09:14 AM

Good lord, lads and ladies! The season ends when we are eliminated from playoff contention. We're eliminated when either the Cowboys, Giants or Eagles run away with the division. Some of you guys want to write the season off and we haven't even hit the halfway point yet. We played like crap last year in the beginning and we're playing like crap this year, too. Our great players have shown they can pull through and step up when all seems lost. We have a ton of talent on this team. It's not like we're the least experienced team on the field.

To make clear, I am very upset, frustrated, disappointed and whatever synonym you can think of with the way our season has gone thus far. Anyone watching Redskins football for the last 15 years should be a little more numb to this yearly occurence of Withering Hope. The one thing that makes us call ourselves fans is that we still are ready to wait for the day of perpetual celebration. It will come, just ask the REDS........ox.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-16-2006, 09:18 AM

I'll say this. If I see a dominating performance in Indy on both sides of the ball, I'll feel a glimmer of hope. If we lose there, it's lost.

ArtMonkDrillz · 10-16-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Good lord, lads and ladies! The season ends when we are eliminated from playoff contention. We're eliminated when either the Cowboys, Giants or Eagles run away with the division. Some of you guys want to write the season off and we haven't even hit the halfway point yet. We played like crap last year in the beginning and we're playing like crap this year, too. Our great players have shown they can pull through and step up when all seems lost. We have a ton of talent on this team. It's not like we're the least experienced team on the field.

To make clear, I am very upset, frustrated, disappointed and whatever synonym you can think of with the way our season has gone thus far. Anyone watching Redskins football for the last 15 years should be a little more numb to this yearly occurence of Withering Hope. The one thing that makes us call ourselves fans is that we still are ready to wait for the day of perpetual celebration. It will come, just ask the REDS........ox.

I really feel like we need to stop comparing this team to last year's or any other Gibbs coached teams from the past. Maybe we should just constrast them:
-The D is giving us no chance to win, unlike last year.
-We are losing to teams we should beat (at home no less), unlike last year.
-The offense isn't moving the ball consistanly, unlike last year.
-This team seems to make no half time adjustments, unlike last year.
I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff.

ArtMonkDrillz · 10-16-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'll say this. If I see a dominating performance in Indy on both sides of the ball, I'll feel a glimmer of hope. If we lose there, it's lost.

I was listening to Cooley on EITM (I'll try to post a link when their site puts it up later today) and I get the feeling that this team could be really fired up for Indy, b/c God knows they should be.
Cooley, BTW, seemed just as shocked and pissed as all of us.

Tom-Tom · 10-16-2006, 09:38 AM

Take the finesse to the outhouse. Run the ball 30-35 times and your defense won't be on the feild long enough to give up 350 yds. This stinks!

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-16-2006, 09:40 AM

Good. Because he seemed to have busted out pretty damn quick from the stadium too. The second I got down to the exit, I saw him heading out in his truck.

If that's what it takes for them to get a fire under their asses, then so be it. But as it stands right now, even if we go undefeated from here on out, Brunell will be the reason we don't win the Super Bowl. HA. I can't even believe I just said Super Bowl.

724Skinsfan · 10-16-2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I really feel like we need to stop comparing this team to last year's or any other Gibbs coached teams from the past. Maybe we should just constrast them:
-The D is giving us no chance to win, unlike last year.
-We are losing to teams we should beat (at home no less), unlike last year.
-The offense isn't moving the ball consistanly, unlike last year.
-This team seems to make no half time adjustments, unlike last year.
I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff.

The only comparison I made was that both teams played like crap. Hard to dispute that. We were fortunate last year to play terrible and get three close wins to start the season.

-The D is giving us no chance to win, unlike last year.
-We are losing to teams we should beat (at home no less), unlike last year. We lost to the Raiders at home last year.
-The offense isn't moving the ball consistanly, unlike last year. We didn't move the ball versus the Bears or Dallas last year
-This team seems to make no half time adjustments, unlike last year. What half-time adjustment did we make versus the Broncos, Chiefs, Giants (away), Chargers, Cardinals (I know we won that one thanks to Antonio Brown) or Tampa Bay.

Twilbert07 · 10-16-2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom-Tom

Take the finesse to the outhouse. Run the ball 30-35 times and your defense won't be on the feild long enough to give up 350 yds. This stinks!

I agree. In other words, leave Al Saunders in D.C.

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10-15-2006, 10:03 PM	#62
jermus22 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Frankfort, KY Age: 43 Posts: 336	Re: The Season Is Over I am by no means a Brunell hater, but it would probably be a good idea to bring in Campbell so he can be groomed for the future. He isn't going to get better sitting on the sidelines, and with four losses this early in a tough schedule, our playoff hopes are but scrapped. __________________ Win it in the trenches.

10-16-2006, 08:45 AM	#66
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: The Season Is Over Yes, the season is over. Even with a win against Indianapolis, there is no way this team goes 8-2 to make the playoffs. I don't believe there's any magic pill for the defense. They simply are not good. It's almost the same defense that's been fielded the past two years, except with a few more "upgrades". Even with Springs coming back (who actually played fairly well on whomever he covered), there's nothing that's going to get that swagger back. I listened to the report on the way home from the game, and Rogers has a broken thumb, and Washington's hip injury is far worse than they are letting on. On the offense, Mark Brunell is done. I'm done being an apologist for him. He looks for Cooley or Moss, then he throws it away. If you look at the actual "play-making" QBs in this league, and yes they exist, they spread the ball around and make things happen. When he FINALLY threw to Brandon Lloyd's strength, look what happened, a big gain. I blamed Patten a lot last year for not catching passes or getting open, but Lloyd apparently is having the Patten syndrome himself. Eli Manning knows what to do. If you have a person who can go up and catch a jump ball, you throw it high in single coverage and let your playmakers make plays. Something needs to shake up this offense, and to be perfectly honest, I don't think Al Saunders is the ticket. They said it on the radio on the way home, this offense has no identity. Last year, it was smash mouth football that set up the deep pass. This year, and I'm quoting the radio: "It's like a new adventure with every series." Reverses on first down, three yard passes on first down, three yard outs on third and long? Where does it end? I PREFERRED Gibbs playcalling last year. I mean at least he played to the offense's strengths. Portis is your work horse, you run him and let the offensive line wear down the opposition, rather than forcing your team into three and outs by throwing consecutive passes. On a side note, my love for the Redskins lessened just a little bit yesterday. I know it's a loss, and I know I'd be pissed too, but there wouldn't be football without us fans. Now, I think I've made my opinion adamantly clear in the past on famous people's salaries, but that's neither here nor there. Dozens of people waited long after the game to maybe get some autographs or a picture taken with one of their favorite players. I think it's total 100% horseshit when a player cannot take five minutes out of his busy schedule to sign a few autographs. The people that I am naming in particular are Portis, Moss and Brunell. So you're a big star? I don't give a fuck. You should be wiping our asses considering the money we pay to pay YOU your millions. Apparently it's the backups who are the ones willing to give something back to the fans. Backups and Marcus Washington. Marcus Washington is one of the most selfless people I've seen in such a high profile position. He stayed at least twenty minutes signing autographs and taking pictures. He said, "OK guys, last one." at least twenty times, and always seemed to have another one in him. That's the type of player you want on your team. This behavior is win or lose. I've been there for wins and I've been there for losses, but always the first people out, without stopping for fans are Moss, Portis and Brunell. Chris Samuels, Renaldo Wynn and Rocky McIntosh, all get free passes because they all signed for a while. I just ask that the players remember where they came from and remember who TRULY pays their salaries. It wasn't the loss that made me lose a little love, it was more of a disillusionment with a few of the so-calling "stars" of this franchise that really pissed me off. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-16-2006, 09:01 AM	#67
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: The Season Is Over The season is over and so is the easy part of the schedule. The skins will be lucky to go 1-2 over their next 3 games. This is a bad team. The coaching is bad and so are the players. I really blame this crummy season on the coaches as teams go top down and the mess starts at the top with Gibbs and goes down from there.

10-16-2006, 09:14 AM	#68
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: The Season Is Over Good lord, lads and ladies! The season ends when we are eliminated from playoff contention. We're eliminated when either the Cowboys, Giants or Eagles run away with the division. Some of you guys want to write the season off and we haven't even hit the halfway point yet. We played like crap last year in the beginning and we're playing like crap this year, too. Our great players have shown they can pull through and step up when all seems lost. We have a ton of talent on this team. It's not like we're the least experienced team on the field. To make clear, I am very upset, frustrated, disappointed and whatever synonym you can think of with the way our season has gone thus far. Anyone watching Redskins football for the last 15 years should be a little more numb to this yearly occurence of Withering Hope. The one thing that makes us call ourselves fans is that we still are ready to wait for the day of perpetual celebration. It will come, just ask the REDS........ox. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

10-16-2006, 09:18 AM	#69
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: The Season Is Over I'll say this. If I see a dominating performance in Indy on both sides of the ball, I'll feel a glimmer of hope. If we lose there, it's lost. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-16-2006, 09:38 AM	#72
Tom-Tom Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	Re: The Season Is Over Take the finesse to the outhouse. Run the ball 30-35 times and your defense won't be on the feild long enough to give up 350 yds. This stinks!

10-16-2006, 09:40 AM	#73
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: The Season Is Over Good. Because he seemed to have busted out pretty damn quick from the stadium too. The second I got down to the exit, I saw him heading out in his truck. If that's what it takes for them to get a fire under their asses, then so be it. But as it stands right now, even if we go undefeated from here on out, Brunell will be the reason we don't win the Super Bowl. HA. I can't even believe I just said Super Bowl. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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