I like Ginn!

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by offiss

Unless the top 3 lineman in which we have to pick from are bonified game changers, in other words the one we pick has to be special, he has to be able to change the coarse of a game, he cannot be just average or servicable, from the end position he has to be able to give us 12 plus sacks a year, from the line position [Branch] he has to be able to collapse the pocket consistantly, and draw a contstant double team, I haven't really seen enough film to make that judgement on any of them, maybe they can and maybe they can't but we better make sure we are not taken a player with the 6th pick who isn't going to do much more than eat space, which can be had later in the draft or is currently on the roster.

Which bring's me to Ginn, this guy is a phenomenal athlete, although he is a little raw as a reciever I don't want him as a reciever, I saw on a clip that he played CB in high school and he has hinted that he would like to play CB again, this kid could be the next Daryl Green his return skills are off the charts, I do believe he's been clocked in the 4.29 range. If we trade down once, maybe twice, he would still be available between 10 to 15 and we could snag 1, maybe 2, 2nd rd picks.

I know that the consenses is to take the D-lineman, but I find it hard to believe that any of the top lineman can impact the game like this kid, he has the potential to be a lockdown CB which we may need more than a D-lineman, and he could be this year's Devin Hester who can stay on the field, he is a better ball player over all than Hester regardless of where you play him. But I still want to see if any of these lineman are bonified.

Let's not get caught up in picking a lineman because of need and really not filling that need talent wise and come to find out next year we still need a pass rusher that happens all to often with a lot of these lineman, I would suggest to the Skins coaching staff to bring him in for a private workout and see if he shows the kind of coverage skills needed to succeed in the NFL, or can he be taught like Green was? Something tells me this kid is the sleeper in this draft if used properly!

This is a joke right??? First of all why in the world would we take a receiver unless it was CJ, which even that would seem ridiculous, secondly why would we waste our 6th pick on drafting a receiver hoping to make him a CB which is totally absurd. Thirdly you talk about not knowing if one of the three D-lineman are game changers, well I would sure think they would be more of a game changer than trying to convert a WR to CB. Sorry just had to rant a little bit.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

This is a joke right??? First of all why in the world would we take a receiver unless it was CJ, which even that would seem ridiculous, secondly why would we waste our 6th pick on drafting a receiver hoping to make him a CB which is totally absurd. Thirdly you talk about not knowing if one of the three D-lineman are game changers, well I would sure think they would be more of a game changer than trying to convert a WR to CB. Sorry just had to rant a little bit.

Pay attention please, the only way I want him is if he is moved to CB which is easier to play than WR, and I only want him if it allows us to trade down and accumulate more picks, I will also say a shutdown CB is probably the second most valued position behind the QB position, so unless these linemen are dominating game changers I say don't use the 1 pick we have on a player that windes up being average or slightly above average just because we have a need. Ginn has Darrell Green type of athletic ability, I am not saying he is green but he could very well be that kind of player at CB.

I would further that by saying I would probably take Landry who will winde up being a better player at safety than any of these linemen will be at thier positions, but thats what happens when you don't know anything about personel, we are stuck with AA's contract and still need a safety. Would we even be discussing D-line if we had drafted Merriman from the get go?

I still want to see more on all 3 of these perspective linemen.

[djnemo65]

Didn't we already talk about this and mostly agree it was stupid?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Didn't we already talk about this and mostly agree it was stupid?

yes. this is a zombie thread and should be ignored.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by offiss

I am worried that we will burn our first rd pick that's the prob. as I stated I wouldn't take this kid with the 6th pick I would obtain more picks and then grab him, I do know this guy is so far off the radar to Gibbs and co. it's really a waste of time to suggest, but I do like playing GM once in a while.

I see nothing wrong with your thinking , ,,, trade down , grab additional picks , and end up with a top kick return man and our # 2 wr . yes I think he could win the starting wr spot opp. Moss. Again , Offiss , did NOT suggest the team pass on Branch/ Anderson and take Ginn at six , he said on a trade down . I would like to see us draft 2 DL , after trading down ,,, but Ginn is a scary weapon no less and would likely have more td's in 07 than Loyd and R El did in 06 .

[budw38]

Originally Posted by That Guy

yes. this is a zombie thread and should be ignored.

Zombie and " Stupid " ,,,,,, that should be attached to paying 20 million to BL & AA .

[RMSkins]

Yes I shouldn't have posted in this "zombie" thread and awaken the demon. My apologies.