Mascot Issue (AGAIN)

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

My take has always been that its the Washington part of the name I root for, not the Redskins part.

What I have never understood is the passion with which predominantly white fans oppose a change. It clearly is the the most offensive moniker out there, so if in keeping with the zeitgeist they decide to go a more politically correct route, why is that such a tragedy? The Wizards name change was much worse - because the original name was not offensive and the new name and colors were so ridiculously stupid - and we all got over that pretty quickly.

To people who say I dont see what the big deal is with the name, isn't the inverse true as well? That its not that big a deal to change it?

No, I still call them the Bullets and love uniform throwback nights. They should wear Bullets uni's for all home games. I hate the name "Wizards". It sounds like one of the corny WNBA team names. The colors aren't too bad, but I preferred the red/white/blue.

I think the major reason they were forced to change was because in 1994, there were a lot of whackjobs shooting at the White House from the sidewalk, trying to get rid of Clinton. A small plane even tried taking him out from the air. A lot of people in that town were "afraid" of bullets in '94 and '95. The press has said it was a high murder rate among blacks in D.C. that prompted the change, but the timing is suspucious and the Clintons always got their way.

While that's horrible, you can't blame the basketball team. If they were in any other city than ultra-liberal & PC Washington, D.C....their name wouldn't have changed. They could even still be the Baltimore Bullets.

The name Redskins is only offensive if you make an effort to be offended. Our logo is tasteful and looks more like a tribute than an attempt to offend, not like the Cleveland Indians (who I have no problem with them remaining the Indians). If we make ANY change, I wouldn't be opposed to going back to our spear logo. That looked GREAT.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

What does that mean?

what i mean is we can't call christmas, christmas. Kids can't participate in halloween because it offends people. or against there religion. Things that we have grown up with or done are now wrong. IF people dont agree with certain things, or dont participate for whatever the reason is, then dont participate in it. Dont celebrate christmas, halloween, or thanksgiving.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Holla!

THAT'S humor!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

you know, we had some serious pc bullshit decision here at William and Mary, being forced to remove their Feathers!! thats right I said f e a t h e r s. The nickname is the 'Tribe'. really, is that offensive? But florida can still do all their antics, which I dont find offensive either. Oh brother, what is going on here........

I have a better one than that for William & Mary. A person was offended by a cross which has been at the school sense it opened back in (I think the early 1900's) and now the schoold board is considering removing it and will be voting on it this month if they have not allready voted.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

what i mean is we can't call christmas, christmas. Kids can't participate in halloween because it offends people. or against there religion. Things that we have grown up with or done are now wrong. IF people dont agree with certain things, or dont participate for whatever the reason is, then dont participate in it. Dont celebrate christmas, halloween, or thanksgiving.

I think he meant what did you mean when you wrote this "WE as americans are losing our rights to people that move in to our country because things are offensive."

[SmootSmack]

If they change the name Redskins will they change the song lyrics to "Hail to the Redskins"? Will it no longer be "Braves on the Warpath" and then, most importantly, will we have to change the URL here? Will this no longer be TheWarpath.net? Whatever will we do?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I have a better one than that for William & Mary. A person was offended by a cross which has been at the school sense it opened back in (I think the early 1900's) and now the schoold board is considering removing it and will be voting on it this month if they have not allready voted.

I'm sorry I left out the best part the cross that offended the person was in the campus church.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Am I the only person of Irish decent that's mad at the NBA team in Boston's name? I'm not mad that they're the Celtics (I couldn't care less what they're called), I'm just mad that they mispronounce the word. It should sound like Kel-tic, not Cell-tic. That is all.

As far as the Skin's are concerned, I would still be a fan if they were forced to change the name, and unfortunately I really the team will feel forced to change it at some point in my life time. At first I won't be happy cheering for the Washington Wolfpack or whatever, but I'll adjust.

[CanadianSkin]

This is really just a lame arguement that people are offended by the name. There have been good suggestions, like just changing the name to the Skins, cause that is what we call them anyway. I love the thought of putting a white guys totally sunburned on the helmet that would be hilarious.

But really, think about it. "The Cheif" at the stadium is a Black guy, heck so is the Cowboy. Are hog farmers offended by the Hogettes?

Everyone needs to know it is a good thing cause we ware showing them as warriors, if we have to change our name, I think everyone should have to. The Packers have to tick off people working in a meat packing plant, or a cheese plant. The Giants has to offend people who are abnormally tall or large. The Patriots must offended people who are not loyal to their country or wear those old style hats.

As it has been said, it is a name of a team. I wear my Skins gear all the time and have been in a group of Native Americans while wearing a shirt that said Redskins and the only comment I got was the "redskins sucks" (stupid cowboy fans or just do not know what they are talking about), but they were referring to the football team, not the Native component... So it will not change, and if it does I will be upset cause the name is about history of the team. We already did a change for PC reasons when we changed the words in Hail to the Redskins (the scalp em part), so we have done our part.

Danny Boy will not let it happen, he loves the team and knows the history.

[Hog1]

PC BS is.................PC BS. You can't tell the truth anymore for fear of offending someone and get your ass sued off. It has reached epidemic proportions in ridicularity.
The FEW who are doing the complaining are not necessarily representive of those THEY SAY they are protecting.
I think it was last year that I saw the "Chief" representaive (I don't recall the title) in the state of Florida for the Seminole Indian tribe in an interview. The interviewer thought they would make some PC headlines, but the Seminole rep surprised him. She flatly stated, and I paraphrase " the Seminole people do NOT look upon the use of it's name, image ar anything thing else by FSU as negative. On the contrary, we know from experience that the students, alums, and faculty hold the school and it's Seminole affiliation in the highest possible regard! Why would we have a problem with that?"
I about stroked out on hearing that.
The face of reason.

We as a race need to lighten up and quit TRYING to find new ways to be the victim.

And if that does not work for you, you can support my..........second favorite team:

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[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Hog1

PC BS is.................PC BS. You can't tell the truth anymore for fear of offending someone and get your ass sued off. It has reached epidemic proportions in ridicularity.

I generally agree that society has gotten too sensitive. However, I think PC-ness has had its benefits. For example, 10 years ago no one would have blinked at Hardaway's recent comments. Today, in part because of PC-ness, it's frowned upon. Moreover, it's hard to define what is "PC." If it's being PC to not use racial epithets, then I'm all for being PC. If being PC means you must espouse left-leaning politics or you're automatically labeled as a--hole, then I'm not for being PC.

[Hog1]

I hear you. To many atty's lining their pockets.....needlessly, jamming a civil court system that is hopelessly jammed. Hopelessly complicating a system that already does not work. To many people looking for reasons to be pissed off. blah, blah, blah
I advocate a simpler, more reasonable world. I have the right to call you a worthless Martian! YOU, being a fine upstanding Martian, have the right to take issue and kick my earthling ass, etc. OR you could right me off as just another dumbass, air breathing, bi-ped and go down the road, NOT being a victim. No harm, no foul.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Am I the only person of Irish decent that's mad at the NBA team in Boston's name? I'm not mad that they're the Celtics (I couldn't care less what they're called), I'm just mad that they mispronounce the word. It should sound like Kel-tic, not Cell-tic. That is all.

No, I'm Irish and that annoys me too. My wife (not Irish) even hates its too since I pointed it out.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

If they change the name Redskins will they change the song lyrics to "Hail to the Redskins"? Will it no longer be "Braves on the Warpath" and then, most importantly, will we have to change the URL here? Will this no longer be TheWarpath.net? Whatever will we do?

Hail to the Redskins...

...potatoes on a hot grill...eat in old D.C.



We'll then be logging onto www.thedeepfried.net

[SkinEmAll]

As I said before, I just dont see this ever happening, but if they are forced to change their name, I guess I'll have to change mine too, ya know just because it implies so many degrading, barbaric, hateful,things.






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