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Old 01-06-2008, 12:40 AM   #1
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Re: Suisham = Momentum Killer

I was hoping for 6 not 3 from the 14 yard line especially after they blotched the kick off. But yes 3 would have beat a blank. Also, being we had just scored all of our points in 2 minutes and we had all the MO that could have very well been enough to put them in panic mode?

That was a big swing in MO, IMO. Coming out with notta from their 14 and they turn around and drive the field for a TD and the 2 point conversion, that was a HUGE shift!
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:55 AM   #2
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That drive should have end up with 7 points and not a missed FG. Our inability to protect TC and get a ground game better than a HS team's going cost us those points IMO.

I agree, I would like to do a Suisham impression right to his f-ing gut for missing that FG but, you cant just put it all on him.

We just need to bring in a little competition for his ass this Offseason to light a fire under him or find a better place kicker.

Oh yeah, and Mix needs to see the field at WR a little more. Maybe the coaches know something we don't about him and he just doesn't perform as well as others at that position but, maybe they've never given him a shot. I would liker to see what he can do. He's built almost identical to Calvin Jonhson from Detroit so, he couldn't be all that bad, right? The kids a special teams demon. Everytime he's in there you see him laying the wood on cats or doing what he did today but I digress....

Suisham missing that was unacceptable and it most certainly turned the momentum their way.
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Old 01-06-2008, 09:31 AM   #3
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The missed FG was a game changer i thought. No doubt. We had the momentum and gave it back.

Give it up to the seahawks thougth, they went down and scored a TD. We just didn't have enough last night.
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Old 01-06-2008, 09:38 AM   #4
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I hate to say "I told you so" with regard to Suisham. His inconsistency was the chief reason Dallas dumped him.
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:59 AM   #5
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I hate to say "I told you so" with regard to Suisham. His inconsistency was the chief reason Dallas dumped him.
Like when Folk shanked that short one at FedEx?

Look, I'm not going to place all the blame on Suisham and I feel like that's kinda what's happening here. He had a good season, better than I think most of us expected.

On the year he was 29 of 35 for 82.9%.

Your boy Folk was slightly more accurate with 26 of 31 for 83.9%.

Not much of a difference between the two kickers.
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Old 01-06-2008, 10:15 PM   #6
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Like when Folk shanked that short one at FedEx?

Look, I'm not going to place all the blame on Suisham and I feel like that's kinda what's happening here. He had a good season, better than I think most of us expected.

On the year he was 29 of 35 for 82.9%.

Your boy Folk was slightly more accurate with 26 of 31 for 83.9%.

Not much of a difference between the two kickers.
Except for the fact that Suisham has been released by 2 teams for inconsistency. And I am willing to bet money that #3 is not far behind.

Folk is a rookie and a Pro-Bowler.

Suisham CHOKED in Dallas, he CHOKED in San Francisco and he CHOKED a chip shot field goal on Saturday. He totally changed the momentum of that game on one play.
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Except for the fact that Suisham has been released by 2 teams for inconsistency. And I am willing to bet money that #3 is not far behind.

Folk is a rookie and a Pro-Bowler.

Suisham CHOKED in Dallas, he CHOKED in San Francisco and he CHOKED a chip shot field goal on Saturday. He totally changed the momentum of that game on one play.
How many FGs did he even attempt while in Dallas, and I don't remember him even making it off the practice squad in SF.

Finally, Folk is a Pro-Bowler because of the success of his team. Had Suisham been on a 13-3 team he'd be just as likely to be the PB representative.
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:28 AM   #8
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How many FGs did he even attempt while in Dallas, and I don't remember him even making it off the practice squad in SF.

Finally, Folk is a Pro-Bowler because of the success of his team. Had Suisham been on a 13-3 team he'd be just as likely to be the PB representative.
I'll answer that one with a question.

Folk hit 2 consectutive 53-yarders in the final seconds in Buffalo to win a nationally televised Monday Night game on the road. Once, when Buffalo called a timeont to freeze the kicker, and then he did it again after the timeout.

I have seen enough of Shaun Suisham to know he probably would have missed one or both of those.

I don't know how far back you can search on this board, but I made a post a few months ago with regards to Suisham, stating that if Washington made it to the playoffs that he had the potential to miss a makeable but important FG and could hurt this teams chances.

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Suisham hit nearly 83% this year, sorry but I just don't see replacing him as a high priority. We've got other needs to chase. How about giving the kid a few years to see what exactly we've got in him and let him develop?

For those that want a "better" kicker, do you realize that Suisham was tied for 5th in the league with his 29 FG's?
You are right replacing him may not be a priority, but he has been with 3 teams in 3 years. How much time does he need?

Giving him time to develop is not the answer. Look I despise the Patriots as much as anyone, but one thing they do right is personnel. Someone comes onboard that team and does not look good in practice, he is out the door and they find someone else. There is no "couple of years to develop". If they can't show that they are going to be an asset to the team, they are labled a liability and they hit the bricks. It is a great motivator for players to "bring it" every day.

Suisham has proven over the last 2 years in the league that he cannot be relied upon to make those high pressure field goals when the team needs it most.
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:30 AM   #9
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I'm sorry, but there was too much MOJO going on for the Skins to lose this game. How perfect is that for Landry to get two INTs playing Sean's position. I swear, I was sitting there thinking, HOLY SHIT, that's Sean wearing #30. Landry had a great game, and represented big time.

Bottom Line: If Suisham makes that field goal Wii win. You can't miss a 30 yard field goal there...You just can't do it. I thought Gibbs was going to bite his lip off after that. That was the beginning of the end. 17-13 would have been good, but 14-13 gave them the chance they needed to come back and make the Skins pay. Suisham isn't living remotely close to D.C. next year.
The fact that we now know we have that f#@%ing idiot possibly kicking field goals to win for us.......sits like a lump in my stomach:vomit:

This was the playoffs and you miss a short kick like that! Sad
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:32 AM   #10
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there was lots of blame to go around,but missing that kick probably doomed us,even Philip Daniels said so,so the defense must have had a letdown

We have the perfect opportunity, getting that turnover, deep in their territory," defensive end Phillip Daniels said. "Not to score on that turnover, that changed the momentum of the game."
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:42 AM   #11
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another qoute from Casey Rabach,
We felt like we were turning the corner," Redskins center Casey Rabach said. "Then we had that missed field goal and everything went awry."

2 qoutes from 2 different pklayers tells me it def affected them and the game,Suisham's name is dirt right now in the locker room,lol
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Old 01-06-2008, 09:49 PM   #12
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another qoute from Casey Rabach,
We felt like we were turning the corner," Redskins center Casey Rabach said. "Then we had that missed field goal and everything went awry."

2 qoutes from 2 different pklayers tells me it def affected them and the game,Suisham's name is dirt right now in the locker room,lol
Rabach can sure relate. He caused a penalty that blew a game for us in '05..I'm blanking on the game, but we were ready to score, he gets called, we're pushed out of field goal range, don't score, lose the game. In other words, we were turning the corner and everything went awry.
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:54 AM   #13
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Probably with a few explesitives before before dirt.
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:59 AM   #14
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It is so lame blaming the kicker. Pro Bowl Kicker Nick Folk's season average is 83% (26/31) and Suisham's is 82% (29/35), Suisham is also 51/52 on PAT. Cut the dude some slack. There's plenty of blame to go around.
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It is so lame blaming the kicker. Pro Bowl Kicker Nick Folk's season average is 83% (26/31) and Suisham's is 82% (29/35), Suisham is also 51/52 on PAT. Cut the dude some slack. There's plenty of blame to go around.
Agreed, looks like we just posted the same thing.
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