Best 5 Moves of Dan Snyder Era

[Paintrain]

The past month has been a tumultuous time for the Redskins faithful with the will he/won't he on the Cutler trade, the rumored infatuation with Mark Sanchez and the potential cost of that move and really just a general sense of uneasiness among us all. It was touched on in another thread that the Sanchez trade/draft could be one of the 5 worst moves in Snyder's ownership reign so it seemed like it could spawn 2 threads of their own- so in this one what are your best 5 moves of the Dan Snyder era?

Best 5 (in no particular order)
1. Trading for Clinton Portis. Without revisiting the issue too much, let's just be clear in agreeing that Champ Bailey wasn't coming back. The move for Portis did a few things. It gave us a chance, every time he stepped onto the field, to win the game. He's consistently been a top 10 back each year he's been a Redskin. For better or worse, he's been the face of the franchise and what successes we've had in his 5 years, he's always been at the forefront of.

2. Firing Norv Turner. The timing of it was awful and he cut Norv's legs out from under him the previous offseason, but the writing was clearly on the wall for most of the 90's that Norv was simply over his head as our head coach. His subsequent career has reinforced what we already figured that he is a great offensive coordinator but not a good HC. He's in a great situation now with a HOF RB, great QB, great TE and a solid organization but still has come up short. While his successors have been less than stellar, it's hard to imagine Norv would have found much sustained success with us.

3. Trading for the #3 pick in the '99 draft to pick Chris Samuels. We can go into the wayback machine and look at what could have happened if we had kept the 3 #1 picks we had and who was available and who we could have gotten, but realistically we don't know who we would have drafted or how they would have turned out in our system(s). Samuels has been the rock of our OL and will go down as a Redskins great when his time is up.

4. Hiring Joe Gibbs. This is a mixed bag for me. Gibbs brought back respectability to the franchise after the Spurrier era. He took us to the playoffs twice and brought in some solid young talent with Cooley, Portis, Moss, Landry, S. Taylor and Rogers. His 4 years restored the faith that many of us had lost in 'Redskins football.

5. Buying the Redskins. Look, despite the decade of mediocrity he has done anything he thought would make us a Super Bowl champ. The results have been absent, but you cannot discount the effort. To a man, if any of us had the means, we would probably buy our favorite team as well and do all that we could to field a winner.

What are yours?

[70Chip]

Bringing Gibbs back. Here endeth the list.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Bringing Gibbs back. Here endeth the list.

I completely agree...Thread done.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Bringing Gibbs back. Here endeth the list.

I disagree, Gibbs was completely overwhelmed and the game had moved passed his antiquated offensive system. The only good year was the 10-6 year when the team was fueled by the loss of Sean taylor, not to mention that I thought Patrick Ramsey might have been a good qb but Gibbs ruined him by completely pulling the rug out from under him enough to destroy what little confidence a young/rookie qb has. So, bringing Gibbs back was not only a mistake, it was an egregious mistake

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I disagree, Gibbs was completely overwhelmed and the game had moved passed his antiquated offensive system. The only good year was the 10-6 year when the team was fueled by the loss of Sean taylor, not to mention that I thought Patrick Ramsey might have been a good qb but Gibbs ruined him by completely pulling the rug out from under him enough to destroy what little confidence a young/rookie qb has. So, bringing Gibbs back was not only a mistake, it was an egregious mistake

Yeah right, that's why Patrick Ramsey is starting in someones roster right now? The 10-6 record was due to Gibbs being the glue that kept the team together.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yeah right, that's why Patrick Ramsey is starting in someones roster right now? The 10-6 record was due to Gibbs being the glue that kept the team together.

Absolutely!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I disagree, Gibbs was completely overwhelmed and the game had moved passed his antiquated offensive system. The only good year was the 10-6 year when the team was fueled by the loss of Sean taylor, not to mention that I thought Patrick Ramsey might have been a good qb but Gibbs ruined him by completely pulling the rug out from under him enough to destroy what little confidence a young/rookie qb has. So, bringing Gibbs back was not only a mistake, it was an egregious mistake

Gibbs was so overwhelmed that his "antiquated" system finished 11th overall in 2005, the best under his 4 years including when Saunders was running the O.

Actually the team finished 9-7 the year ST died.

As far as Ramsey, he's bounced from team to team since leaving DC. He wasn't ruined by anyone, whether it was Spurrier or Gibbs, or Mangini or Shanahan for that matter. He's simply not a starting caliber QB.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

As far as Ramsey, he's bounced from team to team since leaving DC. He wasn't ruined by anyone, whether it was Spurrier or Gibbs, or Mangini or Shanahan for that matter. He's simply not a starting caliber QB.

I think he was ruined when the ABC sideline broad mistook him for Chad Pennington. He was never, ever the same.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I disagree, Gibbs was completely overwhelmed and the game had moved passed his antiquated offensive system. The only good year was the 10-6 year when the team was fueled by the loss of Sean taylor, not to mention that I thought Patrick Ramsey might have been a good qb but Gibbs ruined him by completely pulling the rug out from under him enough to destroy what little confidence a young/rookie qb has. So, bringing Gibbs back was not only a mistake, it was an egregious mistake

The same antiquated offense the Steelers used to win their Super Bowl under Cowher a couple of years ago, and the one the Cardinals used to make their first Super Bowl ever earlier this year...

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I disagree, Gibbs was completely overwhelmed and the game had moved passed his antiquated offensive system. The only good year was the 10-6 year when the team was fueled by the loss of Sean taylor, not to mention that I thought Patrick Ramsey might have been a good qb but Gibbs ruined him by completely pulling the rug out from under him enough to destroy what little confidence a young/rookie qb has. So, bringing Gibbs back was not only a mistake, it was an egregious mistake

How many times have I seen this response on this site.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I disagree, Gibbs was completely overwhelmed and the game had moved passed his antiquated offensive system. The only good year was the 10-6 year when the team was fueled by the loss of Sean taylor, not to mention that I thought Patrick Ramsey might have been a good qb but Gibbs ruined him by completely pulling the rug out from under him enough to destroy what little confidence a young/rookie qb has. So, bringing Gibbs back was not only a mistake, it was an egregious mistake

The Redskins were 10-6 in 2005 and Sean Taylor was very much alive. They were 9-7 in 2007 when Sean passed. Also, Ramsey was a rookie in 2002 so if his confidence was destroyed, it was destroyed by Steve Spurrier. Personally I've never bought this argument anyways. If your confidence can be "destroyed" by a system or coach you don't have what it takes to play QB in the NFL. The truth is that Ramsey just isn't good enough.

As to your statement that Gibbs was "completely overwhelmed" I completely disagree. He made two playoff appearances in four years when we had only had one in the previous 13 seasons. He also restored a physical toughness to the Redskins that had been lacking. We were a soft team all through the 90s and 00s (excepting Marty's brief visit) and that changed abruptly on both sides of the ball when Gibbs came back.

Only someone who has a deep seated dislike for Gibbs on some personal level could make the ridiculous claim that bringing him back was a mistake. In my experience it often boils down to a discomfiture with his religious worldview.

[SmootSmack]

-Gibbs
-His handling of the Sean Taylor situation (as well as taking care of Robert Royal's family during Katrina)

[The Goat]

Well you didn't specify whether they really had to be "football" so I've got a workaround. I don't believe Snyder has done anything on the field, if you will, worth a pat on the back. Trading up to get a bookend LT is just common sense once in a while. Gibbs II was a direct result of the chaos Snyder inflicted.

But I will give the tiny man credit for non-football moves. Everything surrounding Sean's murder...flying Collins up to his wife in delivery...I'm sure there are others. Snyder tries, he's just a lousy football man.

[skinsfaninok]

1. Trading For Portis
2. Trading For Portis LOL
3. Making the Skins a top 5 Franchise again.
4. Getting Rid of Spurrier
5. Bringing Back Gibbs.

[Skins4L]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

1. Trading For Portis
2. Trading For Portis LOL
3. Making the Skins a top 5 Franchise again.
4. Getting Rid of Spurrier
5. Bringing Back Gibbs.

lol agreed