Smoke Signals: Rock Cartwright needs to get over it edition

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Cartwright has just 12 carries the last three years, and only injuries would allow him to get any work on offense.

Exactly!! This is what I've been trying to say forever only to get verbally jumped and cornered on this forum. We are building for the future with Betts/Rock (29) guys that are older than our starting RB? Seems I was a little more intelligent than those calling me a half-wit. Mason is a more tested RB. Dorsey could return but couldn't run. Alrdige had good speed by wasn't a good runner. Caught the ball well out of the backfield. Mason improved on his blocking. He is a good runner and a dependable pass catcher. He has improved over the years. Neither Rock or Betts are in our future plans. I would be suprised if either one of them is here next year. We will either draft a RB or sign one in free agency and Mason will take Betts place and Rock will be gone. We will have another RB in the fold next year to be CP's heir if Mason doesn't pan out. I think Mason is going to suprise a lot of people. But saying that, this article is common sense. But now that you see the roster cuts and that Mason has made the team. It validates my point. I hope all the people that called me half wit are eating their crow right now.

ps. Rock shut up! Your lucky you are on the team.

Running Back Coach - Stump Mitchell: "Last year, they couldn't practice during the course of the week, and [Shaun] Alexander took all the reps but those two guys played in the game," he said. "It wouldn't be that way this year. If Mason takes all the reps, he would definitely take some carries."

Sorry but if we have to look at Mason to take the place of Betts or CP then we are in trouble. Plenty of guys will be coming out of the draft that can make an impact day one and not some scrub that cannot get on a team until now. Not sure why we kept him but we do not need to start building our new running core off Mason. I hope I'm wrong but there is a reason no other teams wanted him and if you look at his game stats they are zero.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by MCWHITEY

Should've kept hackett. At least he knows how to catch and be in a position to catch the ball, unlike the blind (kelly) leading the blind (thomas)

I didn't know you where on the board Hackett! Or did MCWHITEY just eat a MCDUMMY?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Cartwright has just 12 carries the last three years, and only injuries would allow him to get any work on offense.

Exactly!! This is what I've been trying to say forever only to get verbally jumped and cornered on this forum. We are building for the future with Betts/Rock (29) guys that are older than our starting RB? Seems I was a little more intelligent than those calling me a half-wit. Mason is a more tested RB. Dorsey could return but couldn't run. Alrdige had good speed by wasn't a good runner. Caught the ball well out of the backfield. Mason improved on his blocking. He is a good runner and a dependable pass catcher. He has improved over the years. Neither Rock or Betts are in our future plans. I would be suprised if either one of them is here next year. We will either draft a RB or sign one in free agency and Mason will take Betts place and Rock will be gone. We will have another RB in the fold next year to be CP's heir if Mason doesn't pan out. I think Mason is going to suprise a lot of people. But saying that, this article is common sense. But now that you see the roster cuts and that Mason has made the team. It validates my point. I hope all the people that called me half wit are eating their crow right now.

ps. Rock shut up! Your lucky you are on the team.

Running Back Coach - Stump Mitchell: "Last year, they couldn't practice during the course of the week, and [Shaun] Alexander took all the reps but those two guys played in the game," he said. "It wouldn't be that way this year. If Mason takes all the reps, he would definitely take some carries."

ya know, we were clearly having to discussions. the point of the discussion was Mason would not stay if we only kept 4RB's we kept 5 so that opened it up for Mason.
Now if he can prove he should replace Betts, great, but he's not replacing Rock or CP on the 45man gameday roster.

[T.O.Killa]

I would have liked to see someone stand out and take Cartwight's job from him. He has been excellent returning kicks, but he is getting old and one dimensional.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

I agree. Where has this guy been this whole preseason?..lol

She's probably been waiting to hear you say something that makes sense!!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Sorry but if we have to look at Mason to take the place of Betts or CP then we are in trouble. Plenty of guys will be coming out of the draft that can make an impact day one and not some scrub that cannot get on a team until now. Not sure why we kept him but we do not need to start building our new running core off Mason. I hope I'm wrong but there is a reason no other teams wanted him and if you look at his game stats they are zero.

Yep, there sure is a reason. Has to do with 2 things people forget:

1) Other RB's already on the team ahead of him.
2) Other RB's that have been on the team and already know the playcalls.

Basically he was not going to play anywhere until he knew the playcalls and the offense. but we can skip over that and make it easy to just call him a camp scrub.

Also why are people so down on Mason when he's only one step behind Rock technically. Rock was a 7th round draft pick and he still has not measured up to being a RB yet. How about we hear some complaining about that camp scrub who can only make it on ST's cause he's not a good enough RB?

and....for the record, Portis and Betts were both 2nd round picks. Portis 51st and Betts 56th.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I would have liked to see someone stand out and take Cartwight's job from him. He has been excellent returning kicks, but he is getting old and one dimensional.

You know unfortunatly I think they are now looking at Thomas for that roll. Just a feeling. Could be totally wrong.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

You know unfortunatly I think they are now looking at Thomas for that roll. Just a feeling. Could be totally wrong.

You might be right. We will see, but if Thomas becomes our returner, then Cartright's days will be numbered.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Cartwright has just 12 carries the last three years, and only injuries would allow him to get any work on offense.

Exactly!! This is what I've been trying to say forever only to get verbally jumped and cornered on this forum. We are building for the future with Betts/Rock (29) guys that are older than our starting RB? Seems I was a little more intelligent than those calling me a half-wit. Mason is a more tested RB. Dorsey could return but couldn't run. Alrdige had good speed by wasn't a good runner. Caught the ball well out of the backfield. Mason improved on his blocking. He is a good runner and a dependable pass catcher. He has improved over the years. Neither Rock or Betts are in our future plans. I would be suprised if either one of them is here next year. We will either draft a RB or sign one in free agency and Mason will take Betts place and Rock will be gone. We will have another RB in the fold next year to be CP's heir if Mason doesn't pan out. I think Mason is going to suprise a lot of people. But saying that, this article is common sense. But now that you see the roster cuts and that Mason has made the team. It validates my point. I hope all the people that called me half wit are eating their crow right now.

ps. Rock shut up! Your lucky you are on the team.

Running Back Coach - Stump Mitchell: "Last year, they couldn't practice during the course of the week, and [Shaun] Alexander took all the reps but those two guys played in the game," he said. "It wouldn't be that way this year. If Mason takes all the reps, he would definitely take some carries."

and....DMV, some of us understood what you were trying to say, even tried to help out.

but man can you hold a grudge. for a half wit that is.

[doughtydoubter]

eh...i think 4 running backs is ridiculous myself, but i concede...somewhere we had to get some youth at the spot. 3 backs near 30 yrs old is never a recipe for success.
i can see us trading or parting ways with one of these guys soon

[SmootSmack]

Seems like Rock is settling down

Redskins Insider - Smith Clarifies Cartwright's Role

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

ya know, we were clearly having to discussions. the point of the discussion was Mason would not stay if we only kept 4RB's we kept 5 so that opened it up for Mason.
Now if he can prove he should replace Betts, great, but he's not replacing Rock or CP on the 45man gameday roster.

Yeah that discussion also was if Mason was going to make the team. He did. Fin.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and....DMV, some of us understood what you were trying to say, even tried to help out.

but man can you hold a grudge. for a half wit that is.

I know my fellow half wit.. It isn't about holding a grudge. But some people think they know everything. throw out stats instead of having a decent debate. Thinking they know everything. ON this one I was right about them keeping Mason. I am still thinking I am right about Rock needing to go. But that will have to wait until next year. But now I am thinking either Rock or Betts could have been gone and we wouldn't miss a beat....But anyways.

Here is my next prediction. Most of the things I say are common sense. I dont let my feelings for a players cloud my vision for our "team's overall success"

Next year. We are going to draft a RB or get one in free agency and Rock & Betts will be gone.

Write it down..

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

eh...i think 4 running backs is ridiculous myself, but i concede...somewhere we had to get some youth at the spot. 3 backs near 30 yrs old is never a recipe for success.
i can see us trading or parting ways with one of these guys soon

I have this notion also. I dont know how it is going to be done and win. But I think Betts & Rock are on the bubble this year. If we can get a trade for Betts (OL/LB) he will be gone with the wind.

[roth74va]

"I talked to Rock today, and the first thing I told him was, 'No question, your major contribution is special teams. No doubt about that,'" Smith said. "You're a special-teams player. So if we go three active on Sunday, then it'll be Clinton, Ladell and Rock. So I told Rock he's really No. 3, because on game day we only have three.

"But let's say something happens to Clinton or Ladell. If they get hurt and can't play, Mason would come into that spot. It wouldn't be, all of a sudden, Rock is No. 2 and Mason is No. 3. That's just the way we explained it to him. But Rock is going to be active every week."

After speaking with Smith, Cartwright seemed to accept the situation. "I have to look at it like, 'What butters my bread?' And that's special teams," Cartwright said. "I'm satisfied with my role. I'm satisfied with having a job. I'm perfectly happy. I'm a special-teams guy and I'm here for the team."

Now thats more like it, I think he just got caught up in the heat of the moment. All of these guys are competitors, so I understand his frustration.