Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Meanwhile props to the Bengals, they could be a force really soon

Bengals have pieces in place for renaissance | ProFootballTalk

Hopefully, but I just don't trust Mike Brown.

[tryfuhl]

Just wow baby

[GTripp0012]

A.J. Green was worth the package of picks that Atlanta gave up to get Julio Jones. Jones...not so much.

[skinsfaninok]

I called that during the draft, Green was a stud and I think Jones will never be the superstar WR he was traded for

[skinsfaninok]

He's 32 in two months, Oakland made a bad deal IMO

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He's 32 in two months, Oakland made a bad deal IMO

It's super risky no doubt.

[Bucket]

Man.. If they gave up two 1sts for Carson Palmer, we should of made a move and traded them Rex Grossman. We could of at least got a 4th.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Man.. If they gave up two 1sts for Carson Palmer, we should of made a move and traded them Rex Grossman. We could of at least got a 4th.

To the Raiders defense, the Seymour trade worked out okay...probably not first-round okay, but it wasn't a disaster. Meanwhile, the Pats D was never the same after Seymour left, although their potent offense has been able to overcome any defensive deficiencies.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Man.. If they gave up two 1sts for Carson Palmer, we should of made a move and traded them Rex Grossman. We could of at least got a 4th.

They already had Kyle Boller.

[skinsfaninok]

Seymour is a DT that can be productive longer than other positions, Palmer is a OLD QB that is always hurt, If I'm a Raiders fan I'm not that stoked like some have been acting like. I think all of us Skins fans can see whats going to happen in Oakland (McNabb trade for us).. I just don't see it working out

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Seymour is a DT that can be productive longer than other positions, Palmer is a OLD QB that is always hurt, If I'm a Raiders fan I'm not that stoked like some have been acting like. I think all of us Skins fans can see whats going to happen in Oakland (McNabb trade for us).. I just don't see it working out

Palmer is only 31..that's not old in QB years. He probably has 3 or 4 left in the tank if he can stay upright.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Seymour is a DT that can be productive longer than other positions, Palmer is a OLD QB that is always hurt, If I'm a Raiders fan I'm not that stoked like some have been acting like. I think all of us Skins fans can see whats going to happen in Oakland (McNabb trade for us).. I just don't see it working out

Somewhat similar, but not completely the same. Don't get me wrong, I don't think this is the best deal out there, I just don't think it is the worst (yet). When McNabb came to us, we had no receivers, a terrible line, and we were implementing a 3-4 defense with 4-3 personnel. I think this has a better chance to work out than McNabb. If it fails though, the consequences are going to be bigger than us, because basically you setback a team that has some good components already in place.

[GTripp0012]

And Palmer was a much better player at his peak than McNabb was. That's a big one when evaluating the relative compensation.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

And Palmer was a much better player at his peak than McNabb was. That's a big one when evaluating the relative compensation.

maybe u wanna retract this.one...
cuz.Carson didn't do shit for cincy in the post season really... he also did it with two great recievers .. mcnabb had what.. t.o for 3/4 a year? ... they don't compare at their peaks at all IMO ... and I hate the mcscabb

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Meks

maybe u wanna retract this.one...
cuz.Carson didn't do shit for cincy in the post season really... he also did it with two great recievers .. mcnabb had what.. t.o for 3/4 a year? ... they don't compare at their peaks at all IMO ... and I hate the mcscabb

You're right that they don't compare:

Carson Palmer NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Donovan McNabb NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

McNabb's done it for a long time. But Palmer 2005-2007 was one of the three best quarterbacks in football. Clearly. Something that McNabb never was. If Palmer had great receivers, why has no Palmer receiver ever done anything outside of Cincinnati? Are the Bengals that great of an organization that puts it's great players in positions to succeed?