(All about that) D thread

[FrenchSkin]

Some of you guys are going to love this:

http://cdn.stationcaster.com/station...1512573827.mp3

In his "Must do list" for the upcoming season, Cooley says he wants the Skins to transition to a 4-3 D because our personnel is more suited for it:

-Kerrigan and Galette are better with their hands in the dirt (and Kerrigan can't cover).
-He wants Zach Brown our WLB and Ryan Anderson to be our SLB with Foster (or Compton) at MLB.
-He doesn't like to have different guys for the 4-2 nickel and for the few snap you play as a 3-4.
-We don't have a true NT and it's not easy to find.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by mooby

We've definitely improved this year on d, but I'm not satisfied with how easy it is for teams to score on us with less than 5 min in the half. If Manusky can fix that I don't have a problem with him for next year.

It's that Prevent Defense; you know, the one that prevents you from winning. I HATE that frickin' soft D. Always have and always will.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Some of you guys are going to love this:

http://cdn.stationcaster.com/station...1512573827.mp3

In his "Must do list" for the upcoming season, Cooley says he wants the Skins to transition to a 4-3 D because our personnel is more suited for it:

-Kerrigan and Galette are better with their hands in the dirt (and Kerrigan can't cover).
-He wants Zach Brown our WLB and Ryan Anderson to be our SLB with Foster (or Compton) at MLB.
-He doesn't like to have different guys for the 4-2 nickel and for the few snap you play as a 3-4.
-We don't have a true NT and it's not easy to find.

It's time to switch, been long enough

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Damn, Allen and Matt Ioninnininininniddis would be AWESOME next to each other in a 4-3.

[Chico23231]

This makes sense because the organization refuses to find a Nose Tackle...but insists on running a 3-4. Pretty fucking retarded, but hey, that's Bruce & Co.

Same organization offered 17 million per year to Cousins...Cousins team countered with 19 per year and Bruce said no.

That alone could cost the team 15-16 million against the cap next year if tagged.


People say fire Jay which is dumb...we all should be saying Fire Bruce loud and clear.

[MTK]

Just switch so we don’t have to hear about it anymore. Then in a few years people will want to switch back. Rinse and repeat.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

This makes sense because the organization refuses to find a Nose Tackle...but insists on running a 3-4. Pretty fucking retarded, but hey, that's Bruce & Co.

Same organization offered 17 million per year to Cousins...Cousins team countered with 19 per year and Bruce said no.

That alone could cost the team 15-16 million against the cap next year if tagged.


People say fire Jay which is dumb...we all should be saying Fire Bruce loud and clear.

This. Remember when we fired Vinny and we were all like "YESSS! BRUCE ALLEN!" Did NOT realize what a schmuck this guy was going to be.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by MTK

Just switch so we don’t have to hear about it anymore. Then in a few years people will want to switch back. Rinse and repeat.

haha this was true when G williams and Blache had the reigns - ppl were cyring about the bend but dont break and wanted an aggressive 3-4 scheme... i agree that we dont have the players needed and we would be better suited for 4-3 = but in the end it is LITERALLY coming down to creativity and scheme, which ive been watching all year flop but also have flashes of "well ok, thats was a nice blitz or nice stunt - good call greg" - but they are WAY too few and far between... ppl trhinking about the 4-3 ... could be better .... BUT .... do you guys see how many time we actually line up in the 4-3 front? ..... A SHIT TON. Almost i'd be willing to bet 80% of the time. No bullshit. So im kind of wondering now..... would it really make that much of an impact or difference? Trust, we line up with 4 DL nearly every friggin play.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Meks

haha this was true when G williams and Blache had the reigns - ppl were cyring about the bend but dont break and wanted an aggressive 3-4 scheme... i agree that we dont have the players needed and we would be better suited for 4-3 = but in the end it is LITERALLY coming down to creativity and scheme, which ive been watching all year flop but also have flashes of "well ok, thats was a nice blitz or nice stunt - good call greg" - but they are WAY too few and far between... ppl trhinking about the 4-3 ... could be better .... BUT .... do you guys see how many time we actually line up in the 4-3 front? ..... A SHIT TON. Almost i'd be willing to bet 80% of the time. No bullshit. So im kind of wondering now..... would it really make that much of an impact or difference? Trust, we line up with 4 DL nearly every friggin play.

Talent over scheme any day. What killed our front this year was losing Allen and Matt I’s broken hand. Those two injuries had a ripple effect across the D.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by MTK

Talent over scheme any day. What killed our front this year was losing Allen and Matt I’s broken hand. Those two injuries had a ripple effect across the D.

agreed, but tons of other teams get creative especially through injuries - and greg has been very underwhelming IMO in that area. I've seen GLIMPSES, not even flashes, but they flee fast.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Agreed. I also think losing Foster was a bigger blow than most of us thought.

[Schneed10]

We made strides this year in defensive talent. Allen and Ioannidis are the first effective interior pass rushers we've had in years. Literally years and years.

Unfortunately our free agent acquisitions on the line were disappointing - McGee and McClain didn't do enough for us. So where we thought we had depth, we really didn't have enough when Ioannidis and Allen got hurt. Lanier is promising and had some moments as a rusher, but he's not consistent enough yet and is going to get moved in the run game.

Our talent at MLB is still just flat out insufficient, save for Zach Brown. Compton shouldn't be on an NFL roster, and Mason Foster is OK. If you're a very good team, then OK gets you in the rotation as a depth guy. I want Very Good as my starters.

We need a lot more talent, plain and simple.

[Schneed10]

All that said I'm very excited to see what Montae does in year 2. Players usually make a big jump year 1 to year 2, and there's a lot of reason to believe that will make him a very, very good player.

See if he can stay healthy enough.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

We made strides this year in defensive talent. Allen and Ioannidis are the first effective interior pass rushers we've had in years. Literally years and years.

Unfortunately our free agent acquisitions on the line were disappointing - McGee and McClain didn't do enough for us. So where we thought we had depth, we really didn't have enough when Ioannidis and Allen got hurt. Lanier is promising and had some moments as a rusher, but he's not consistent enough yet and is going to get moved in the run game.

Our talent at MLB is still just flat out insufficient, save for Zach Brown. Compton shouldn't be on an NFL roster, and Mason Foster is OK. If you're a very good team, then OK gets you in the rotation as a depth guy. I want Very Good as my starters.

We need a lot more talent, plain and simple.

To me Mason Foster is better than OK, he was having a great year next to Brown before dislocating his shoulder (and playing through it for a few games).
I agree we need more quality depth though.

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[Chico23231]

We need more talent up the middle. DT and ILB...If Ryan Anderson is better at an ILB/MLB position, move him there.

in regards to pass rush...Kerrigan Murphy and Ioannidis are all extremely solid/not spectacular. I think JG has been better as the year has worn on...I would be in favor of bringing him back. Preston Smith...inconsistent, seems like a rotational guy. My feeling is this is a squad that is overall above average, you can win with.

We cant go another year with McClain or Hood at NT/DT. This is unacceptable and hurts the entire defense.