Panthers Postgame sadness

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

You know how it works. The system is broken.

True. But the no job thing is on his parents...how do you teach work ethic if you never had a job

1000000% on dad and mom.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

True. But the no job thing is on his parents...how do you teach work ethic if you never had a job

1000000% on dad and mom.

Totally agree, and the impression I've gotten (from Haskins & Haskins) and the 2 months they spent planning his draft party, putting together his "entertainment" company/etc. indicates they looked at Dwayne as a meal ticket. I think his entire family and friends failed him.

https://twitter.com/michaelstrahan/s...841314817?s=20

Finally saw this clip of the Fox pre-game crew ripping Dwayne. It's a shame, he'll get another opportunity elsewhere for vet min probably but if his work ethic/ego gets in his own way there won't be many more opportunities.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

True. But the no job thing is on his parents...how do you teach work ethic if you never had a job

1000000% on dad and mom.

Im not getting caught up with that. He was a top prospect in the 4th grade. His dad had NFL aspirations for him. Seems he came from a middle class type family in NJ then moved to Potomac Md to go to Bullis in the 9th grade.

He was on a different life trajectory than us. I worked baskin robbins at 15 and Popeyes/day laborer through out high school until college. We werent him. Few are.

He attained an incredible achievement, making the NFL. No one can take that from him.

He also apparently lost that achievement by being immature and entitled. basically the opposite of Chase Young. In ways I feel bad for him. He has no one to blame but himself but it is sad watching a young person experience these huge crushing emotions so early in life.

A lot was given to him unearned but that is the society we live in. Us 40-60 year old fat guys on our couches raise these 19 year old athletes above us on this pedestal like some greek gods .. only to discard them into the trash heap once they dont benefit our Sunday viewing pleasure anymore.

I feel for the young man. His feelings right now and the weight on his shoulders is vastly more than any of us could even imagine.

We created Dwayne Haskins in many ways. College to professional sports is a factory and these young guys are just products on an assembly line with a limited useful shelf life before they are discarded and replaced.

[skinsfaninok]

"Zero chance Dwayne Haskins is the quarterback of the Washington Football Team next year," Esiason said on the CBS halftime show Sunday. "No way. I think Ron Rivera, Doug Williams, everyone down there is trying to give him every opportunity to become the leader. He just doesn't seem to love the game of football, because that's ultimately what it takes."

Boomer Esiason

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

"Zero chance Dwayne Haskins is the quarterback of the Washington Football Team next year," Esiason said on the CBS halftime show Sunday. "No way. I think Ron Rivera, Doug Williams, everyone down there is trying to give him every opportunity to become the leader. He just doesn't seem to love the game of football, because that's ultimately what it takes."

Boomer Esiason

Heard that too. Love for the game - a key ingredient to any NFL qb's success.

[Warthog]

1. Dwayne Haskins is done with this team. The WFT will NOT get ANYTHING for Haskins. He will be put up for trade but no one will offer anything for him. Someone may pick up Dwayne FOR FREE, but I give it just as likely a possibility that NO ONE in the NFL will even offer him a job.

I don’t think Haskins realizes how huge a crater he has dug for himself. His horrible play, incredibly stupid off-the-field decisions and immaturity may mean his NFL career is over. This may sound drastic, but the NFL is giving players less and less time to show their abilities. After 2 years in the NFL, teams may want to save their spots for players with more DESIRE, MATURITY and ability.


2. Steve Sims JR is another player whose continued poor performance will get him released by the WFT. As with the QB position, the team will draft WR in 2021 or make trades for good or very good FA in WR for next year. The team doesn’t need to bring back a player who drops this many passes or makes costly fumbles. His punt returning skills are very below average and this is his second fumble on ST. His hands are made of stone. If Rivera/Kyle Smith had made any real effort this pre-season to get some FA at WR, STEVE Sims wouldn’t be on this team now. The WFT can’t afford to keep playing below average guys who are also turnover machines. Not with this lackluster offense.

3. Reavers had a terrible game, missing tackles and getting burned for a long pass.

4. I can’t understand why Turner gave up so easily on the running game. The team was averaging over 5 yds a run in the first two quarters, but then gave up on that to let Haskins continue to make poor passing plays. Do what the Panthers did to us on one scoring drive. Continue to run on every play UNTIL THEY CAN STOP YOU FROM DOING SO!

5. Why did Rivera keep playing Haskins until there was just 9 minutes left in the game? Why didn’t Rivera go for it on fourth down until the LAST QUARTER. The Panthers were going for it almost EVERY FOURTH DOWN? Why weren’t we doing the same? The Panthers were going for broke, we should have done the same once we got far behind.

I wonder if Rivera kept Haskins in to show Snyder he was giving Dwayne a full consideration????. A QB who has a QB rating BELOW 10 (max score is 154) and has 3 turnovers in the first half shouldn’t be starting the second half. Haskins was throwing balls too high, too low, behind receivers, was holding onto the ball too long and couldn’t sense the pass pressure. If Rivera had made the change at the start of the second half WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE WON!! Waiting until the 4th Qtr was just too late!!

If players are making continual, grievous plays you take them out.


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[Meks]

The refs are FUCKING BAD..

[Meks]

Haskins FUCKING SUCKS

[PorkSkins]

I heard Fred Smoot, as he made his usual guest appearance on the post game radio show, and he said (paraphrase), "Today's game became clear for him as Haskins can't read defenses." I think most of us knew that much going in.

Smoot went on to say a few things about Haskins play against the Panthers and overall.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

I heard Fred Smoot, as he made his usual guest appearance on the post game radio show, and he said (paraphrase), "Today's game became clear for him as Haskins can't read defenses." I think most of us knew that much going in.

Smoot went on to say a few things about Haskins play against the Panthers and overall.

Yea welcome to.the party ( late as fuck) Fred.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by Meks

Yea welcome to.the party ( late as fuck) Fred.

I often listen to Smoot, and I don't think he was ever sold on Haskins. He was just hoping and wishing like most of us.

[bulldogsjc]

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[Warthog]

Originally Posted by bulldogsjc

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I officially apologize because at the end of last season and beginning of this season I had hoped the team would play Haskins all the 2020 season and then move on or keep him. Rivera gave him 4 games and that was enough. His fundamentals are terrible. He can’t read defenses nor can he go through an entire progression of WR. His accuracy is DISMAL. He had open receivers and he couldn’t get them the ball. Too high, too low, not hitting WR in stride. He’s throwing passes into tight coverage with three White Jersey defenders and one WFT player.

Any further plays with him as the QB is just a complete waste of time. However, if I was WRONG at supporting Haskins for this season, I was also right about getting him onto the playing field in the first season. Sitting an entire season on the bench , just wastes a season. Give him two entire seasons and if he can’t start winning and beating the NFL defenses, then it’s time to move on.

It was amazing that Rivera brought in a backup QB, with ZERO first team reps and he immediately began to move the team. Our players are OPEN, but Haskins couldn’t get the ball to them. If RR had brought in Heinickle for the entire second half I think the team could have won.

Use the draft picks we have to trade up into the top ten picks in 2021. In other words trade our first pick (2021) and second round pick (2021) to get into the top ten picks of this upcoming draft. We won’t get into the top 5 picks but we’ll get into the top 3-4 QB in this year’s draft picks. Let this QB mentor under Alex Smith and start after 5-8 games. He gets two years and then he either swims or sinks.

Use the FA money we have next season to get an ELITE #2 WR to compliment MacLaurin, another good TE FA to go with Thomas and add a couple good OL FA players and try to keep Scherff.


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[FrenchSkin]

My biggest issue with the decision to play Haskins is this:

-They know he's not good enough, and they know way better than us he's not putting in nearly enough work during the week

-They know what Heinicke was, way better than us

-They lived the distraction Haskins created during the week

... And yet they still made the decision to play him ... Let's address the elephant in the room: was this a Dan Snyder induced decision ?

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

My biggest issue with the decision to play Haskins is this:

-They know he's not good enough, and they know way better than us he's not putting in nearly enough work during the week

-They know what Heinicke was, way better than us

-They lived the distraction Haskins created during the week

... And yet they still made the decision to play him ... Let's address the elephant in the room: was this a Dan Snyder induced decision ?

So many people are defending Ron, but I really feel that it is indeed possible that Dan forced Ron to start him. Like you said, they all knew all of that stuff. If it wasn't Dan forcing Ron, then Ron himself just wasn't trying to win yesterday. Putting Haskins out there shit on the rest of the team who have been working their ass off. A lot of them may not forgive that shit. They worked their asses off for essentially nothing because Ron is playing Haskins, who is just going through the motions on everything, and taking nothing seriously.

HASKINS SHOULDN'T BE BACK NEXT YEAR, but this is Danny boy we are talking about.