Fresh Start Political Thread

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If a fetus isn't a human how does it turn into a human? We're all constantly in different stages of human-life until we die. I find it weird that people act like they're not human, if you ask me.

Now you're moving the goal posts. You called it a baby so that's what I was responding to.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Now you're moving the goal posts. You called it a baby so that's what I was responding to.

A baby is a human. Wasn't moving any goalposts.

I'll revise:

If a fetus isn't a baby how does it turn into a baby? We're all constantly in different stages of human-life, starting at formation, until we die. I find it weird that people act like they're not babies, if you ask me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

A baby is a human. Wasn't moving any goalposts.

I'll revise:

If a fetus isn't a baby how does it turn into a baby? We're all constantly in different stages of human-life, starting at formation, until we die. I find it weird that people act like they're not babies, if you ask me.

I'll just respectfully bow out here. Like Chico was saying, there's a middle ground here. Texas is not allowing for that and that's the problem. Often times a woman doesn't even know she's pregnant within 6 weeks. It's just not a reasonable situation.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

A baby is a human. Wasn't moving any goalposts.

I'll revise:

If a fetus isn't a baby how does it turn into a baby? We're all constantly in different stages of human-life, starting at formation, until we die. I find it weird that people act like they're not babies, if you ask me.

I feel like you're smarter than this.

It takes 9 months to go from an embryo to a living, breathing baby. This next part is uninformed but based on my very minimal research it takes 20ish weeks to get from the stage where it's just a bunch of cells to an actual developed baby.

If this offends you, just think about the millions of kids I've aborted prematurely. They died for my sins.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Calling a weeks old fetus a baby is so weird if you ask me.

I think there is some middle ground. Certainly aboarding child on date of birth is murder.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think there is some middle ground. Certainly aboarding child on date of birth is murder.

No doubt there's some middle ground. Texas however is not agreeing to any middle ground right now.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think there is some middle ground. Certainly aboarding child on date of birth is murder.

Vast majority think somewhere btw 18-24 weeks is a fair balance. Gives the woman enough time to discover the pregnancy and make a decision before the fetus turns too much into a viable fetus.

Technically Roe is not overturned but this is equivalent to a State banning ammo. You can still own guns. Your right to bear arms is still entact but theres no where to buy ammo just like the abortion clinics in Texas arent performing abortions right now.

All those liberals screaming Kav and Amy would take away a womans right to an abortion have been proven correct.

SCOTUS has failed to protect federal and Constitutional law. They are now playing current climate politics. The SCOTUS is derelict of duty imo.

Will Constitutional and settled law now change each time the bench does? With the SCOTUS decisions leaning whichever way their political appointees want them to?

Im disappointed.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by MTK

Calling a weeks old fetus a baby is so weird if you ask me.

I understand his position. It's where you believe a fetus becomes a human life. Some believe that is at conception, some believe when it takes it a first breath outside the womb, some when a baby becomes viable outside the womb etc.. You have to oppose ending innocent life so I don't knock those that support a total ban - I just think it is one of the extremes - I do think their tactics and policies undermine more restrictive abortion laws though. I'll admit I'm a bit hypocritical in that I will knock those that think the opposite (first breath outside the womb as they support ending lives of babies that are capable of taking that 1st breath but aren't outside the womb yet).

[SunnySide]

Roe is established law. When the Rs stole a SC seat, this was the fear. That they would use religion to guide their decisions .. by placing very religious justices on the bench.

The SCOTUS is becoming a farce by playing games. By taking no action and allowing Roe to be de facto overruled in Texas is playing games.

Keep your religious beliefs out of our democracy.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Roe is established law. When the Rs stole a SC seat, this was the fear. That they would use religion to guide their decisions .. by placing very religious justices on the bench.

The SCOTUS is becoming a farce by playing games. By taking no action and allowing Roe to be de facto overruled in Texas is playing games.

Keep your religious beliefs out of our democracy.

Just come out and say it, Christian's shouldn't be allowed in politics. Only atheist should rule us, because they are so pure.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Just come out and say it, Christian's shouldn't be allowed in politics. Only atheist should rule us, because they are so pure.

dude ... thats not what I said. But you know that.

Theres no point reading what you have to say if youre going to be irrational and acting in bad faith.

Have a good one SD. Enjoy that beautiful SD weather for all of us.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

dude ... thats not what I said. But you know that.

Theres no point reading what you have to say if youre going to be irrational and acting in bad faith.

Have a good one SD. Enjoy that beautiful SD weather for all of us.

If you assign being against abortion as being religious and then say religion has no place in decision making, you are effectively saying people that are religious shouldn't have a say.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Just come out and say it, Christian's shouldn't be allowed in politics. Only atheist should rule us, because they are so pure.

I will say it.

Church and state should be separate.

In this case, church means Christianity, since you are the dominate religion of the US continually trying to interfere in politics. Enjoy your tax-exempt status and gtfo out of government decisions.

If it was Muslims trying to ban pork for all Americans you'd be up in arms too.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mooby

I will say it.

Church and state should be separate.

In this case, church means Christianity, since you are the dominate religion of the US continually trying to interfere in politics. Enjoy your tax-exempt status and gtfo out of government decisions.

If it was Muslims trying to ban pork for all Americans you'd be up in arms too.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Roe is established law. When the Rs stole a SC seat, this was the fear. That they would use religion to guide their decisions .. by placing very religious justices on the bench.

The SCOTUS is becoming a farce by playing games. By taking no action and allowing Roe to be de facto overruled in Texas is playing games.

Keep your religious beliefs out of our democracy.

Religious protection under law…it’s a good thing. But you can’t sit here and say this rant when just months ago Barrett refused to hear whatever harassment of the left is doing to the cake making guy case.

U admit he is under harassment from these lame ass lgbtqisjfjth groups right? Suit after suit…this sits ok with you?

Religion is under assault right now.