Who is Kirk Cousins?

REDSKINS4ever · 12-01-2015, 01:34 AM

I was a Colt McCoy guy. I still am. And I wasn't pleased with all of Cousins struggles at first. I was even down on him. But what I've seen from him the last four games has been phenomenal. Cousins has played really well and he's improving and maturing into a solid answer at quarterback.

SCRedskinsFan · 12-01-2015, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Yes. Completion percentage is important. However, historically yards/pass attempt is a much more telling number. In that category, Kirk has been much less impressive (21st out of 32 - although he is ahead of Rodgers)

Player Passing Yards Per Attempt Statistics: 2015 NFL Season

Kirk completes a lot of short passes. It is how Gruden's scheme is designed. There were several deep shots designed for yesterday's game. Except for the one shot to Desean and the one to Roberts, I don't recall any other deep shots taken by him despite the several designed 7 step drops. Maybe the shot wasn't there and it was a good check down. Maybe he just doesn't pull the trigger. Dunno. Would love to see the All-22.

AGAIN - Still best option. Still likely best option for next year.
Not a hater, just not one of Kaptain Kirk's Kool-Aid Klub (yet).

I think you're exhibiting signs of "post traumatic RGIII syndrome." Not ready yet to believe in any Redskins QB after the 2013-14 debacle. We understand that, and the cure is at hand, watch the next five games and smile.

We hope...

JoeRedskin · 12-01-2015, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

I think you're exhibiting signs of "post traumatic RGIII syndrome." Not ready yet to believe in any Redskins QB after the 2013-14 debacle. We understand that, and the cure is at hand, watch the next five games and smile.

We hope...

Bucket, KCI, Punch Chanting: Drink the Kool-Aid Joe, Drink the Kool-Aid.

Me: No ... I ... can't ... too ... inconsistent ... can't ... trust ... Skins' ... QB's ... no ... no ...

Bucket, KCI, Punch: Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ...

CRedskinsRule · 12-01-2015, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

I think you're exhibiting signs of "post traumatic RGIII syndrome." Not ready yet to believe in any Redskins QB after the 2013-14 debacle. We understand that, and the cure is at hand, watch the next five games and smile.

We hope...

I don't think it's post RGIII. I think its a Skins fan's birthright to expect less out of our qbs then the hype that is sold. 20 plus years of the next answer at qb needs more than an every other game success story to get buy in from some

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Hog1 · 12-01-2015, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Bucket, KCI, Punch Chanting: Drink the Kool-Aid Joe, Drink the Kool-Aid.

Me: No ... I ... can't ... too ... inconsistent ... can't ... trust ... Skins' ... QB's ... no ... no ...

Bucket, KCI, Punch: Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ...

I object!
Your arguments are incompetent, irrelevant and immaterial........

punch it in · 12-01-2015, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Bucket, KCI, Punch Chanting: Drink the Kool-Aid Joe, Drink the Kool-Aid.

Me: No ... I ... can't ... too ... inconsistent ... can't ... trust ... Skins' ... QB's ... no ... no ...

Bucket, KCI, Punch: Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ...

Hahahahaha. Dont worry JR when you are ready we will welcome you into the Captain Kirk fan club.
Edit: in all honesty I have been maintaining that KC is quite suitable to lead a team to the promised land, which of course should be the goal of any NFL QB. I believe what this guy is doing with the injuries, lack of a run game, and through most games this season - a not so good D is very very promising. I believe once SM builds a better "team" that this guy will shine. I do not believe he is a Grossman or anything even close to that. I believe he - over these next 5 games will ascend to JR's level of belief. I do not think he is a hall of famer like Brady or Rodgers or Brees will be. I do believe he is capable of winning a championship for us. I believe he is going to go down as one of the best QB's to dawn the B&G. All of this while emerging from the ashes of one of the great quarterback debacles in history in a town starving for a quarterback like no other.

KI Skins Fan · 12-01-2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Bucket, KCI, Punch Chanting: Drink the Kool-Aid Joe, Drink the Kool-Aid.

Me: No ... I ... can't ... too ... inconsistent ... can't ... trust ... Skins' ... QB's ... no ... no ...

Bucket, KCI, Punch: Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ...

I know it's hard for you Joe because you've been hurt so many times before. I just hope that some day you can learn to trust again.

SCRedskinsFan · 12-01-2015, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Hahahahaha. Dont worry JR when you are ready we will welcome you into the Captain Kirk fan club.

But we'll have to tell him when it's time, there's no way he'll know!

Am on an 8-hour train trip from Berlin to Zurich, I must be bored to death...

punch it in · 12-01-2015, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

But we'll have to tell him when it's time, there's no way he'll know!

Am on an 8-hour train trip from Berlin to Zurich, I must be bored to death...

True dat

Bucket · 12-01-2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Bucket, KCI, Punch Chanting: Drink the Kool-Aid Joe, Drink the Kool-Aid.

Me: No ... I ... can't ... too ... inconsistent ... can't ... trust ... Skins' ... QB's ... no ... no ...

Bucket, KCI, Punch: Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ... Drink the Kool-Aid ...

Nothing really in this boat. I defended RG3 against Punch for a long time. I came to see progression from another QB in Washington at Tanning camp and the coaches did to

53Fan · 12-01-2015, 10:08 AM

Gruden on Cousins: 'Everybody looks up to him' | CSN Mid-Atlantic

SkinsGuru · 12-01-2015, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

rocnrik, great. Won NFC player of the week twice. Yay. However, bottom line, to date, he has roughly as many INT's and fumbles as TD passes. Just off the top of my head, an elite QB has about a 3:1 / TD:TO ratio. A good QB a 2:1 ratio. An average QB has about a 1:1 ratio.

I am not going to repeat past arguments about KC and his ceiling. Nothing this year has changed my perception of him as being consistently inconsistent. I believe he has reached his ceiling. He can win with a good team around him and when he hits on most cylinders.

If he puts a string of six games in a row with a 2:1 or better TD/TO ratio, I will be convinced he has taken a step. I fully expect, however, that he will continue his ~ 1:1 ratio.

Kirk's TD/TO ratio were:

2012 - 4/4 (3 games; 3 INT's)
2013 - 4/10 (5 games; 7 INT's)
2014 - 10/11 (6 games; 9 INT's)
2015 - 15/13 (11 games; 10 INT's)

Teams can win with numbers like these, but not consistently. To me, and to be a better than average QB, over the long run you have to score twice as much as you turn the ball over.

Again, I still believe he is the best option at this point and likely next year.

i am on the fence with Cousins . . . i see his struggles but do see consistent improvement from him, which gives me room to hope . . . so by your comment, in his last 5 games he has a 12 TD to 5 Turnover or 2.4/1 . . . that is above a good QB standard by your terms no?

see:

week 7 - 4 to 1 (3 passing, 1 rushing) - 1 fumble
week 8 - bye
week 9 - 1 to 1 (1 passing) - 1 interception
week 10 - 4 to 0 (4 passing)
week 11 - 1 to 3 (1 passing) - 1 interception, 2 fumbles
week 12 - 2 to 0 (1 passing, 1 rushing)

Total last 5 weeks: 12 TD to 5 Turnovers

punch it in · 12-01-2015, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucket

Nothing really in this boat. I defended RG3 against Punch for a long time. I came to see progression from another QB in Washington at Tanning camp and the coaches did to

Not to say "i told you so" but....
Edit: is tanning camp where you get some color rite before training camp?

punch it in · 12-01-2015, 10:27 AM

Also I figured out who Kirk Cousins is. He is....the Boxer
http://youtu.be/l3LFML_pxlY

Chico23231 · 12-01-2015, 10:28 AM

when it comes to the Skins right now...Cousins been consistent enough the second half of the season, but not the run game. We really the run game to rebound...stop the matt jones fumbling, Alfmo needs to be better hitting hole and getting production with his opportunities and Chris Thompson needs to get healthier and needs more opportunities as well. Oline needs to be more consistent as well.

To me the Cousins talk is kinda dead at this point....

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12-01-2015, 01:34 AM	#766
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,114	Re: Who is Kirk Cousins? I was a Colt McCoy guy. I still am. And I wasn't pleased with all of Cousins struggles at first. I was even down on him. But what I've seen from him the last four games has been phenomenal. Cousins has played really well and he's improving and maturing into a solid answer at quarterback. __________________ *Touchdown Washington Redskins!!!*

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12-01-2015, 10:27 AM	#779
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 54 Posts: 24,147	Re: Who is Kirk Cousins? Also I figured out who Kirk Cousins is. He is....the Boxer http://youtu.be/l3LFML_pxlY

12-01-2015, 10:28 AM	#780
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,037	Re: Who is Kirk Cousins? when it comes to the Skins right now...Cousins been consistent enough the second half of the season, but not the run game. We really the run game to rebound...stop the matt jones fumbling, Alfmo needs to be better hitting hole and getting production with his opportunities and Chris Thompson needs to get healthier and needs more opportunities as well. Oline needs to be more consistent as well. To me the Cousins talk is kinda dead at this point....

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