Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'm actually a little pissed we turned down the first rounder now. What's going to happen is he'll stand pat, lose that money, and we'll be scrounging around to MAYBE get a fourth rounder for him....... from the Pats.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'm actually a little pissed we turned down the first rounder now. What's going to happen is he'll stand pat, lose that money, and we'll be scrounging around to MAYBE get a fourth rounder for him....... from the Pats.

New England has 12 picks and if they want him the Redskins should get multiple picks.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

That would be very anti-Redskins for them to actually get what the value should be. :/

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

That would be very anti-Redskins for them to actually get what the value should be. :/

The Redskins have the leverage, they should get a decent return. And the fact they have not rushed into a trade is ground for optimism.

[skinsfaninok]

Bruce on Trent" I think Trent will show up and play football"

According to JP Finlay, the team has no plans on trading Trent.

[sandtrapjack]

Patriots trade for an OL yesterday with Ravens. Wonder if that takes them out of the trade partner field for Williams.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...aine-eluemunor

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Patriots trade for an OL yesterday with Ravens. Wonder if that takes them out of the trade partner field for Williams.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...aine-eluemunor

They were rumored to been out after being denied a 1st for Trent..

The latest rumor was Houston for Clowney but that has faded fast too so I guess Trent isn't going anywhere

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

They were rumored to been out after being denied a 1st for Trent..

The latest rumor was Houston for Clowney but that has faded fast too so I guess Trent isn't going anywhere

That one doesn't make sense to me. Clowney is holding out for his big payday, that second contract. If you do not want to pay Williams, you sure do not want to pay Clowney.

Clowney is looking for Von Miller type money.

[CRedskinsRule]

If we were trading in preseason, the time would have been the week before the 3rd game to give TW a chance to get set with the new team. At this point the next milestone will be the trading deadline, if a team has a severe injury at LT before that.

BA is border line delusional if he thinks Trent is coming back this year.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If we were trading in preseason, the time would have been the week before the 3rd game to give TW a chance to get set with the new team. At this point the next milestone will be the trading deadline, if a team has a severe injury at LT before that.

BA is border line delusional if he thinks Trent is coming back this year.

Maybe he will come back , who knows.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Maybe he will come back , who knows.

In today's NFL teams can't pin the season on a player coming back. Especially not one who has stated he is going to sit out AND has the financial resources to do it.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Agree Cred the FO has been flat out delusional about the franchise from it's players to how the fan base feels about the team. Maybe it is the pessimist in me but I have zero faith he will be back.

[Schneed10]

So this is going to sound weird to say, but I've got to applaud Bruce for how he's handling this. Won't trade Trent. Won't waver. Just confident that if he waits this out, Trent will show up.

He's got $21M on the line over the next two years that offer plenty of incentive to show up, and Bruce knows it.

Now if Trent actually doesn't show and actually does shoot himself in the wallet and sit for principle (I don't believe it) then my praise of Allen is premature. But if Trent really intended to go to war in order to free himself from the Skins I think he'd be speaking out.

Allen is playing this game of chicken properly. He knows he holds the cards.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So this is going to sound weird to say, but I've got to applaud Bruce for how he's handling this. Won't trade Trent. Won't waver. Just confident that if he waits this out, Trent will show up.

He's got $21M on the line over the next two years that offer plenty of incentive to show up, and Bruce knows it.

Now if Trent actually doesn't show and actually does shoot himself in the wallet and sit for principle (I don't believe it) then my praise of Allen is premature. But if Trent really intended to go to war in order to free himself from the Skins I think he'd be speaking out.

Allen is playing this game of chicken properly. He knows he holds the cards.

That's why he is smirking while talking, he knows Trent has to show up to get paid.. Yeah he's made great $ in his career but that is still a ton of $ to be leaving on the table..

Also Trent has 2 years left right? There is no chance he sits 2 years lol lets be real here and he knows that too. By the time that comes around he'd be 33 years old and not played in 2 full seasons... Nobody would want him.

Trent will show up before week 3 that's my guess.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

That's why he is smirking while talking, he knows Trent has to show up to get paid.. Yeah he's made great $ in his career but that is still a ton of $ to be leaving on the table..

Also Trent has 2 years left right? There is no chance he sits 2 years lol lets be real here and he knows that too. By the time that comes around he'd be 33 years old and not played in 2 full seasons... Nobody would want him.

Trent will show up before week 3 that's my guess.

Allen has resting 'shit eating grin' face.

But yeah it makes no sense. I don't understand why people believe Trent has any leverage. His choices are:

- as you say, sit for two years and give up $21M, hit the market and try to get a deal at 33 having not played in two years. All the while risking that the Redskins might just franchise tag him anyway.

- sit for 10 games, come back just in time to accrue another NFL season towards his pension, giving up $7M in the process, yet still under team control for another year, so skip the first 10 games again maybe in 2020, giving up another $7M

- play this year, earn $11M, and restart the crusade next year when he's in his last year of his deal and will have more leverage. But the leverage is still limited, because of the prospect of the franchise tag.

- play both years, earn $21M, hit free agency or get tagged by the skins and earn a top 5 salary in his 34 yo year

No matter how you look at it, skipping games is tantamount to shooting himself in the foot out of principle.