Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

That's interesting... Please tell me an offer that you think that the redskins could get.

I know one team that needs Kirk and could get him just by paying his contract with no additional picks needed.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

It's all speculation because Redskins ownership is not communicating with the media. If they are forced to do a trade which one would you want them to take?

Option 1: SF

Redskins gets: #2 pick, #34 pick and Eric Reid

SF gets: #17 pick and KC

Option 2: Rams

Redskins Get: Jared Goff, 2018 2nd round pick

Rams get: KC

Option 3 Jets
Redskins get: #6, #38, Sheldon Richardson
Jets Get: KC, #17, #49

Option 4: Browns
Redskins Get #12, #33, #65 and Josh Gordon

Browns Get: KC #235

Option 5:

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

That's interesting... Please tell me an offer that you think that the redskins could get.

keep in mind the Redskins gave up 3 first round picks and a second round pick for RGIII. And he had not played in the NFL. I am not saying the 49ers are that foolish, but they are desperate for QBs. They need two.

I would want the 49ers 2017 picks #2 ...#34...#66 and two 2018 picks. The Redskins would keep their #1 pick #17

Or give KC 5 years . . . $125+ million and $60+ million guaranteed

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[skinsfaninok]

Peter king believes Kirk will not be traded this off season because the niners really don't want to give up the 2nd pick now.

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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

keep in mind the Redskins gave up 3 first round picks and a second round pick for RGIII. And he had not played in the NFL. I am not saying the 49ers are that foolish, but they are desperate for QBs. They need two.

I would want the 49ers 2017 picks #2 ...#34...#66 and two 2018 picks. The Redskins would keep their #1 pick #17

Or give KC 5 years . . . $125+ million and $60+ million guaranteed

.

No chance, SF will not offer all of that for a guy they can get in 2018

[Schneed10]

I came here to point this out:

“Eric Schaffer, who’s a great guy and works hard for the Redskins, and I are going to get together this week,” McCartney told Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on SiriusXM NFL Radio on Tuesday, just a few hours after the Redskins announced that they had placed the exclusive franchise tag on Cousins.

Note, that's Shaffer he's meeting with, our cap and contracts guy. He's not meeting with Allen. Why is that key?

Shaffer is authorized to negotiate $ terms on behalf of the Redskins, but he's not authorized to discuss trade compensation terms, that falls to Allen.

This meeting is to discuss $ figures. They may still leave the meeting with a major bridge to gap, but it needs to be noted this is a negotiation in earnest.

Redskins, Cousins agent will meet at the NFL Combine | CSN Mid-Atlantic

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I came here to point this out:



Note, that's Shaffer he's meeting with, our cap and contracts guy. He's not meeting with Allen. Why is that key?

Shaffer is authorized to negotiate $ terms on behalf of the Redskins, but he's not authorized to discuss trade compensation terms, that falls to Allen.

This meeting is to discuss $ figures. They may still leave the meeting with a major bridge to gap, but it needs to be noted this is a negotiation in earnest.

Redskins, Cousins agent will meet at the NFL Combine | CSN Mid-Atlantic

Could this be even better? Could it mean the Skins and Cousins have agreed to the basic parameters of a deal, and now McCartney and Schaffer are meeting to begin hammering out the finer points? You'd think Allen would be in that meeting if there were stil major $ figures to discuss

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

I know one team that needs Kirk and could get him just by paying his contract with no additional picks needed.

That is not an answer for the hypothetical.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Could this be even better? Could it mean the Skins and Cousins have agreed to the basic parameters of a deal, and now McCartney and Schaffer are meeting to begin hammering out the finer points? You'd think Allen would be in that meeting if there were stil major $ figures to discuss

No I think Shaffer is charged with negotiating with McCartney to come to the best deal he can. When he's done, just like a car salesman Shaffer will go back to talk to his "manager". Basically, he'll go back to Allen when the weekend is over and say listen I've been able to get McCartney down to $__ per year, what do you want to do.

Then if it starts getting close, maybe Allen gets involved.

He won't waste his time with the early stages of negotiating. Shaffer will do that.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

No I think Shaffer is charged with negotiating with McCartney to come to the best deal he can. When he's done, just like a car salesman Shaffer will go back to talk to his "manager". Basically, he'll go back to Allen when the weekend is over and say listen I've been able to get McCartney down to $__ per year, what do you want to do.

Then if it starts getting close, maybe Allen gets involved.

He won't waste his time with the early stages of negotiating. Shaffer will do that.

I hate that back and forth to the manager stuff. Maybe some day the NFL and the NFLPA will go to "No Hassle Pricing".

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Could this be even better? Could it mean the Skins and Cousins have agreed to the basic parameters of a deal, and now McCartney and Schaffer are meeting to begin hammering out the finer points? You'd think Allen would be in that meeting if there were stil major $ figures to discuss

They're still quite far apart. I'm sure both sides would like to come to a resolution on this sooner than later. And hopefully both will realize having each other is the best scenario for the short and long term

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

No I think Shaffer is charged with negotiating with McCartney to come to the best deal he can. When he's done, just like a car salesman Shaffer will go back to talk to his "manager". Basically, he'll go back to Allen when the weekend is over and say listen I've been able to get McCartney down to $__ per year, what do you want to do.

Then if it starts getting close, maybe Allen gets involved.

He won't waste his time with the early stages of negotiating. Shaffer will do that.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They're still quite far apart. I'm sure both sides would like to come to a resolution on this sooner than later. And hopefully both will realize having each other is the best scenario for the short and long term

Damn you two for popping my balloons. Back to the boob thread I go...

[metalskins]

Sounds plausible, but even if they are still far apart, going on Schneed's assumption that this is strictly a numbers meeting, that gives me some hope that trade talks would be the last resort thing.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Sounds plausible, but even if they are still far apart, going on Schneed's assumption that this is strictly a numbers meeting, that gives me some hope that trade talks would be the last resort thing.

Yeah the fact that it's a meeting with Shaffer is a very good thing. At the very very least, it means they're giving long term negotiations the old college try.

Doesn't necessarily mean that they can get close enough to agree (though I still think they will) but it at least unequivocally means that they're going to try.

I think if you're the Redskins, and you know you're never going to come up in your offers, then you don't even bother sending Shaffer to meet with McCartney. You just get started on talking trades, and that would be an Allen / McCartney discussion. And we now know that it's not - it's a Shaffer / McCartney discussion.

[skinsfaninok]

Word is 20m a yr will be offered

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