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View Poll Results: What should the Redskins do with Cousins?
Sign him to a long term deal 47 75.81%
Let him walk 4 6.45%
Use the franchise tag again 11 17.74%
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:00 PM   #841
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

Conflicting reports now on if redskins are going to use tag at all:

Washington won’t decide on Kirk Cousins until after the season ends | ProFootballTalk

Albert Breer says skins don't know what they are going to do, and won't look at the situation until after the season.

LaCanfora and others still say the skins already have plans to lock up Cousins to keep him off the open market:

Redskins Won’t Let Kirk Cousins Walk After Season « CBS DC

So if Cousins gets tagged the second time, does that mean that in 2018, the starting point for his negotiations would be 24 million?
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:02 PM   #842
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

But why tag him, if you are ok with the fact that you paid him ~20M this year, ~24M next year, how bad would he have to play not to sign him to a long term deal. Sign him to a 6 year deal, guarantee him along the lines of Andrew Luck's contract -
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I would say he should have even more fully guaranteed at signing. And be happy that we have a long term answer.

If you tag him in 2017, you set yourself up for a terrible negotiation in 2018. Either a 34M franchise tag, or a long term deal with 34M as a base.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:22 PM   #843
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He's earned the long term deal, and he'll get it.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:44 PM   #844
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He's earned the long term deal, and he'll get it.
Definitely and it's going to cost even more now. That 18-19/mil a year deal went to 22-24mil/yr. I fully expect that deal to start at 50mil guaranteed and be an average of 23-24mil/yr.


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He's going to get paid. If Flacco is making 22mil/yr, you can believe that's the starting point with it ending at Luck at 24.5mil/yr.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:08 AM   #845
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Kirk Cousins' growth one reason Redskins flourish minus key starters - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:36 AM   #846
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

Flacco is a SB winning QB who doesn't have the weapons that KC does. He played a big part in some playoff games on the road. Plus the SB. Not trying to undermine what KC is doing, he's been impressive. But Flacco delivered when it mattered most. In the end maybe that's what Redskins management might be looking at. He's going to have play at this current level in the post season.
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Old 11-29-2016, 12:23 PM   #847
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Flacco is a SB winning QB who doesn't have the weapons that KC does. He played a big part in some playoff games on the road. Plus the SB. Not trying to undermine what KC is doing, he's been impressive. But Flacco delivered when it mattered most. In the end maybe that's what Redskins management might be looking at. He's going to have play at this current level in the post season.


Flacco also had a top tier defense. Just sayin...
I wouldn't trade for Flacco young or old. No way.
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Forget Flacco the number Cousins will be looking at is Luck's deal and working up from there.
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Old 11-29-2016, 02:12 PM   #849
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3 years of the franchise tag would average over $25M so you can bet that's what they will be looking at.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:14 PM   #850
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3 years of the franchise tag would average over $25M so you can bet that's what they will be looking at.
As long as it leaves us with plenty of money to take care of our other needs I'm alright with it.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:31 PM   #851
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

Here's some good info on our salary cap for next year. $61 million sound ok?

The Redskins are poised to make big moves
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:39 PM   #852
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

It seems to me that the most important number to Kirk's side would be the amount that is fully guaranteed. With the amount guaranteed as a negotiation item, the Skins could start low on that amount and give some on the guaranteed amount later in the negotiations in order to bring down the annual salary amount.

The number of years in the contract is also an issue. Will it be three, four, five, or even six years?
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Old 11-29-2016, 05:05 PM   #853
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Kirk against the blitz... 110 Passer rating...

Kirk Cousins' growth one reason Redskins flourish minus key starters - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:14 PM   #854
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Flacco also had a top tier defense. Just sayin...
I wouldn't trade for Flacco young or old. No way.
Kirk is a far superior QB to Flacco. It's not even a comparison in my book.
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:32 PM   #855
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Hes going to get a cabinet position if we don't sign him long term so we better get busy.
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