Give Props to Brunell

Daseal · 11-05-2006, 06:25 PM

Brunell started the game off hot, and quickly cooled down. He made some big throws, he missed some big throws, and he made some awful throws. If this were a one week trial, he'd probably be our #1 WR. But does anyone want to bet he'll play well again next week? Or the week after? Brunell feels the pressure "Oh shit, Im gonna lose my job, time to take some risks." then once he has the job secure he becomes firmly entrenched back to his old ways.

While Brunell played decent, he didn't play great. He about got Portis killed with a high ball, threw two bad ints, one into a lineman, and overall moved the team by going deep and getting PI calls (proving our WRs get more than open, Dallas has a strong secondary and we were blowing by!).

I still want a change at QB just because I don't see this being a regular occurance.

GTripp0012 · 11-05-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

We talk about the skins namely Rogers having "almost interceptions", looked like the whole cowpukes secondary, adopted his hands of stone play.
Im glad there werent any picks, MB had quite a few scary passes (the cooley touchdown, and what was up with that horrible throw to a wide open llyod? it was called back but wtf can he ever hit anyone in stride?). I cant believe that people are saying that a QB throwing for less than 200yds is a great game

It is when you throw 23 times! That's 8.35 yards/attempt. Better than Peyton Manning's season average.

He did have a few scary passes, but people were asking us to open up the offense...so I mean you can't have it both ways...unless they drop them.

Daseal · 11-05-2006, 06:41 PM

Lets base Mark Brunells season Average againt Peyton Mannings, or even this game vs Peyton Mannings best game.

GTripp0012 · 11-05-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Lets base Mark Brunells season Average againt Peyton Mannings, or even this game vs Peyton Mannings best game.

Why would we make the comparison?

I'm just saying Brunell's YPA today was better than the average Manning game. Ya know, instead of giving a figure with nothing to compare it to.

Chief X_Phackter · 11-05-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Lets base Mark Brunells season Average againt Peyton Mannings, or even this game vs Peyton Mannings best game.

HATERS BACK OFF!!! Will you always come up with something to complain about? Hello... Rivalry... We beat the Cowpukes for God's sake, give it a rest for ONE DAMN WEEK!!! Jimminy XMAS!!!

Daseal · 11-05-2006, 06:53 PM

Comparing Brunell to Manning is like comparing my manhood to Ron Jeremys. You'll only end up being embarrased.

MTK · 11-05-2006, 06:53 PM

Brunell bashing after that win today is just stupid. Plain stupid.

If Campbell played and put up the same stat line we'd be crowning him as the king of DC.

Give it a rest bashers... seriously.

Let's just enjoy the win, it was a great one. I really don't want to spend this week discussing the same tired ass shit.

70Chip · 11-05-2006, 06:54 PM

I didn't read every thread so forgive me if this has been mentioned already. I think that Moss being out forced Saunders and Brunell to get the ball to LLoyd (who became a Redskin today) and also Thrash (who can still play) which made the offense look a lot better. We also now know that Cooley can be a threat over the middle in this offense. I think, especially on third downs, they were leaning too much on Santana.

What was great was the fact that Parcells was telling the NYT that the Redskins were now "horizontal" and they came out and were very "vertical" in their passing game. Thrash caught a couple right over the middle. I think Cooley did too, plus a drop. LLoyd had one. They need to at least try those looks every week. I'm talking about those 18 yard type throws.

Finally I voted great, although I would say he was between "good" and "great" in actuality. I rounded up for two reasons. No picks (although there were a couple close calls) and he had so much zip on his passes today. If you are determined to hate Brunell you can find things to hate about his play today, but an objective analysis has to say he was at least above average.

If I were a hater, I would be focusing on his inabilty to make plays on the move. He's still agile enough to buy time with his feet, but he doesn't do a lot with it. Case in point was the 3rd down where it looked like he could have run for it but threw it incomplete. Somebody should have been open at some point because that play took a while to develop. It surprises me that he is actually better standing in the pocket because I always think of him as a Steve Young type. At any rate he made the needed throws and he keeps his job a while longer, so all the haters may as well pipe down because we've heard all your tired ass arguments and Campbell will stay on the bench another week.

And, it may have appeared that Lloyd was open after his collision with Sellars, but trust me, that's not a pass you want your quarterback to throw. Sellars would have been wide open, but he went ass over elbows and Brunell had to eat it.

The fumble was somebody's fault but it's not clear whose. Could be Brunell, could be Rabach.

Romo is going to be a pain in the ass for years to come. Hopefully he has some massive unexposed weakness because he looked like Staubach today.

Sean Taylor is the best fumble-returner in the history of the league.

Arch is an embarrasment. They may as well start planning a way to dump him, even if it costs money because now he's costing us money and games.

I thought several Redsklins had their best games of the year:

Brandon Lloyd - I'm starting to believe in him. Previuosly I thought him
soft.
Ladell Betts - He had some big 3rd down conversions.

Carlos Rogers - Tackled well today.

Kenny Wright - Broke up some passes.

James Thrash - I would like to see him get some more balls.

Chief X_Phackter · 11-05-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Brunell bashing after that win today is just stupid. Plain stupid.

If Campbell played and put up the same stat line we'd be crowning him as the king of DC.

Give it a rest bashers... seriously.

Let's just enjoy the win, it was a great one. I really don't want to spend this week discussing the same tired ass shit.

Thank you Matty and goodnight!

MTK · 11-05-2006, 06:56 PM

I think we should add another option to the poll... good.

I don't think he played great, but he did play good. Good enough to help win the game.

Stacks42 · 11-05-2006, 06:57 PM

Wins as a starter this year:
Brunell 3
Manning 7

Through 7 games
Brunell 1382 yds passing
Manning 1916 yds

GTripp0012 · 11-05-2006, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Wins as a starter this year:
Brunell 3
Manning 7

Through 7 games
Brunell 1382 yds passing
Manning 1916 yds

YEEAAA a season comparison between Peyton Manning and Mark Brunell!!! WOOOO

What is so hard about my point? NO ONE IS COMPARING PEYTON MANNING TO MARK BRUNELL.

Todays YPA numbers were better than you would expect from the best QB in the NFL. That's my point. Better than ANYONE's average.

Roethlisberger's YPA today is off the hook right now. No one is going to confuse him for Peyton either.

The difference? Brunell wasn't picked twice. And we won.

illdefined · 11-05-2006, 07:40 PM

what a wacked poll. there's nothing between Great and Average? like....Good?
i'll say he was Great today, FOR HIM.

he FINALLY took some real shots down the middle of the field, and i really think that new and unexpected dimension (again, for him) made us competitive enough for the win.

skinsguy · 11-05-2006, 07:46 PM

Brunell had a good game today. I thought he played a pretty decent game. Anyone complaining today should be shot on sight.

Bstanley · 11-05-2006, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Brunell bashing after that win today is just stupid. Plain stupid.

If Campbell played and put up the same stat line we'd be crowning him as the king of DC.

Give it a rest bashers... seriously.

Let's just enjoy the win, it was a great one. I really don't want to spend this week discussing the same tired ass shit.

Yes I agree SHUT THE F*CK up brunell haters we won we just beat the cowgirls so shut the F up! good lord!

View Poll Results: How well did Brunell play against the Cowboys?
Great	14	8.81%
Good	48	30.19%
Average	81	50.94%
Sub-Par	12	7.55%
Horrible	4	2.52%
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11-05-2006, 06:25 PM	#76
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Give Props to Brunell Brunell started the game off hot, and quickly cooled down. He made some big throws, he missed some big throws, and he made some awful throws. If this were a one week trial, he'd probably be our #1 WR. But does anyone want to bet he'll play well again next week? Or the week after? Brunell feels the pressure "Oh shit, Im gonna lose my job, time to take some risks." then once he has the job secure he becomes firmly entrenched back to his old ways. While Brunell played decent, he didn't play great. He about got Portis killed with a high ball, threw two bad ints, one into a lineman, and overall moved the team by going deep and getting PI calls (proving our WRs get more than open, Dallas has a strong secondary and we were blowing by!). I still want a change at QB just because I don't see this being a regular occurance. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-05-2006, 06:41 PM	#78
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Give Props to Brunell Lets base Mark Brunells season Average againt Peyton Mannings, or even this game vs Peyton Mannings best game. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-05-2006, 06:53 PM	#81
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Give Props to Brunell Comparing Brunell to Manning is like comparing my manhood to Ron Jeremys. You'll only end up being embarrased. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-05-2006, 06:53 PM	#82
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Give Props to Brunell Brunell bashing after that win today is just stupid. Plain stupid. If Campbell played and put up the same stat line we'd be crowning him as the king of DC. Give it a rest bashers... seriously. Let's just enjoy the win, it was a great one. I really don't want to spend this week discussing the same tired ass shit. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-05-2006, 06:54 PM	#83
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: Give Props to Brunell I didn't read every thread so forgive me if this has been mentioned already. I think that Moss being out forced Saunders and Brunell to get the ball to LLoyd (who became a Redskin today) and also Thrash (who can still play) which made the offense look a lot better. We also now know that Cooley can be a threat over the middle in this offense. I think, especially on third downs, they were leaning too much on Santana. What was great was the fact that Parcells was telling the NYT that the Redskins were now "horizontal" and they came out and were very "vertical" in their passing game. Thrash caught a couple right over the middle. I think Cooley did too, plus a drop. LLoyd had one. They need to at least try those looks every week. I'm talking about those 18 yard type throws. Finally I voted great, although I would say he was between "good" and "great" in actuality. I rounded up for two reasons. No picks (although there were a couple close calls) and he had so much zip on his passes today. If you are determined to hate Brunell you can find things to hate about his play today, but an objective analysis has to say he was at least above average. If I were a hater, I would be focusing on his inabilty to make plays on the move. He's still agile enough to buy time with his feet, but he doesn't do a lot with it. Case in point was the 3rd down where it looked like he could have run for it but threw it incomplete. Somebody should have been open at some point because that play took a while to develop. It surprises me that he is actually better standing in the pocket because I always think of him as a Steve Young type. At any rate he made the needed throws and he keeps his job a while longer, so all the haters may as well pipe down because we've heard all your tired ass arguments and Campbell will stay on the bench another week. And, it may have appeared that Lloyd was open after his collision with Sellars, but trust me, that's not a pass you want your quarterback to throw. Sellars would have been wide open, but he went ass over elbows and Brunell had to eat it. The fumble was somebody's fault but it's not clear whose. Could be Brunell, could be Rabach. Romo is going to be a pain in the ass for years to come. Hopefully he has some massive unexposed weakness because he looked like Staubach today. Sean Taylor is the best fumble-returner in the history of the league. Arch is an embarrasment. They may as well start planning a way to dump him, even if it costs money because now he's costing us money and games. I thought several Redsklins had their best games of the year: Brandon Lloyd - I'm starting to believe in him. Previuosly I thought him soft. Ladell Betts - He had some big 3rd down conversions. Carlos Rogers - Tackled well today. Kenny Wright - Broke up some passes. James Thrash - I would like to see him get some more balls. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

11-05-2006, 06:56 PM	#85
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Give Props to Brunell I think we should add another option to the poll... good. I don't think he played great, but he did play good. Good enough to help win the game. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-05-2006, 06:57 PM	#86
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 836	Re: Give Props to Brunell Wins as a starter this year: Brunell 3 Manning 7 Through 7 games Brunell 1382 yds passing Manning 1916 yds __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

11-05-2006, 07:40 PM	#88
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 49 Posts: 2,631	Re: Give Props to Brunell what a wacked poll. there's nothing between Great and Average? like....Good? i'll say he was Great today, FOR HIM. he FINALLY took some real shots down the middle of the field, and i really think that new and unexpected dimension (again, for him) made us competitive enough for the win. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

11-05-2006, 07:46 PM	#89
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Give Props to Brunell Brunell had a good game today. I thought he played a pretty decent game. Anyone complaining today should be shot on sight. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

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