Lemar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??

SouperMeister · 08-21-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

He was probaboly our biggest defensive playmaker in 2005, however. I mean the entire defense did a great job and he was in good position alot of times...but if you go back to 2005, he made some HUGE plays for us....

I agree that he played well in 2005. My favorite "Marshall Moment" was in the penultimate game of 2005 against the G-men when Lemar intercepted a pass intended for Shockey, who in typical Shockey fashion, turned and bitched at the refs while Marshall was taking the ball back 20 yards the other way. I had a bunch of Giants fans wearing #80 jerseys sitting near me that day, and I got right in their faces pointing out how their boy quit on what was one of the biggest plays of the game. Priceless.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-21-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think we are overanalyzing this. The simplest answer to why he got cut is that he was outplayed in camp.

This offseason, we've made a significant effort to find LBs who are good vs. the pass. Fletcher, we made a run at Briggs, drafting Sartz and Blades, two very underrated cover LBs, who dropped due to size. For two straight years now, Marshall has been awful against the pass. While his prowess against the run could have justified the 4th LB spot, its possible he didn't "fit" our new defense.

I always thought that Marshall was pretty good in coverage and sub-par in run-blocking (which isn't surprising considering he is a 230 lb. MLB).

saden1 · 08-21-2007, 12:51 PM

ESPN is now reporting the story. Clearly Lamar lost his staying power when he was demoted in favour of London Fletcher. I wouldn't be surprised if he was disgruntled and asked to be released. I mean, I would. I don't think personal pride would allow you to be demoted.

In last weeks game Marshall didn't play with any enthusiasm. He was winging it.

12thMan · 08-21-2007, 12:53 PM

C'mon you guys, Marshall wasn't bitching about riding the pine or being a back-up. He's been a team guy from day one, and I highly doubt he was released because he was bitching and moaning. Could be wrong, but it's just not consistent with how they've portrayed him in the past.

We all know in GWs system people are in different packages all the time, and with Marcus now playing DE in certain situations Marshall would have almost been guaranteed significant playing time. GWs defense didn't get more complex. In fact, he's scaled it back some and simplified some things, so it had nothing if anything to do with the system.

It had to be one or two things: Either that damn shoulder injury is still bothering him to the point it's affecting his performance or they are just going in another direction with the young guys.

70Chip · 08-21-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I agree that he played well in 2005. My favorite "Marshall Moment" was in the penultimate game of 2005 against the G-men when Lemar intercepted a pass intended for Shockey, who in typical Shockey fashion, turned and bitched at the refs while Marshall was taking the ball back 20 yards the other way. I had a bunch of Giants fans wearing #80 jerseys sitting near me that day, and I got right in their faces pointing out how their boy quit on what was one of the biggest plays of the game. Priceless.

I thought the play against the Eagles when he tipped the interception to himself was one of the great defensive plays in Redskins history. That game was not going our way at the time. (This was the game where ST returned the fumble and Mrs. Portis threw down and repesented.)

MTK · 08-21-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I always thought that Marshall was pretty good in coverage and sub-par in run-blocking (which isn't surprising considering he is a 230 lb. MLB).

I didn't see him as a run stopper either, he was always better in coverage.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-21-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

ESPN is now reporting the story. Clearly Lamar lost his staying power when he was demoted in favour of London Fletcher. I wouldn't be surprised if he was disgruntled and asked to be released. I mean, I would. I don't think personal pride would allow you to be demotion.

I thought the same thing, but JLC's blog "reports" that Marshall was shocked by his release.

sandman89 · 08-21-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Why would the release Marshall when there is so much other camp fodder they could cut to free up a roster spot? I call BS on this until there is a link from a reputable website.

Well actually, maybe this is a good idea we have rookie LB's with talent that need to start.We got H.B blades and starz so lets no worry boys but ill always remember Marshall.

jbcjr14 · 08-21-2007, 12:57 PM

This is pretty shocking. I will wait to pass judgement until I hear Gibbs talk to the media after practice.

MTK · 08-21-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

This reminds me of the Ryan Clark situation.

I don't see any similarities at all.

Godfrey is not being brought in as a starter, he's depth and nothing more. Plus he's played for GW before.

12thMan · 08-21-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I always thought that Marshall was pretty good in coverage and sub-par in run-blocking (which isn't surprising considering he is a 230 lb. MLB).

Same here. I thought he was better in pass coverage. Even more so than Pierce, but he lacked in run defense.

chrisl4064 · 08-21-2007, 12:58 PM

this release, if true is one of the stupidest things we could have done. and i say ONE of the stupidest because i could think of a few more that i wouldnt be suprised to see.

12thMan · 08-21-2007, 01:00 PM

I think Godfrey is this year's version of James Posey. Plain and simple.

Monkeydad · 08-21-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I didn't see him as a run stopper either, he was always better in coverage.

Wasn't Lemar a safety in college?

I thought I heard that once on a broadcast. At 225ish pounds, he was undersized as a LB.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-21-2007, 01:01 PM

I'm not saying that Marshall deserved to start or was some stud, but I do remember a lot of big plays.

#1. In Week 16 of the 2005 season, Drew Bledsoe threw a pass over the middle to Witten and Marshall tipped the ball into Marcus Washington's hands, who then ran about 40 yards downfield.

#2. In Week 17 of the 2005 season, Eli Manning threw a pass to Shockey and Marshall picked the pass and ran do the Giants' 20 yard line.

#3. In Week 7(?) of the 2005 season, Marshall picked off a pass by Kerry Collins and scampered into the endzone for a TD.

I'm sure there are more, but he was a playmaker in 2005.

08-21-2007, 12:51 PM	#78
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey?? ESPN is now reporting the story. Clearly Lamar lost his staying power when he was demoted in favour of London Fletcher. I wouldn't be surprised if he was disgruntled and asked to be released. I mean, I would. I don't think personal pride would allow you to be demoted. In last weeks game Marshall didn't play with any enthusiasm. He was winging it. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

08-21-2007, 12:53 PM	#79
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey?? C'mon you guys, Marshall wasn't bitching about riding the pine or being a back-up. He's been a team guy from day one, and I highly doubt he was released because he was bitching and moaning. Could be wrong, but it's just not consistent with how they've portrayed him in the past. We all know in GWs system people are in different packages all the time, and with Marcus now playing DE in certain situations Marshall would have almost been guaranteed significant playing time. GWs defense didn't get more complex. In fact, he's scaled it back some and simplified some things, so it had nothing if anything to do with the system. It had to be one or two things: Either that damn shoulder injury is still bothering him to the point it's affecting his performance or they are just going in another direction with the young guys.

08-21-2007, 12:57 PM	#84
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 55 Posts: 2,015	Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey?? This is pretty shocking. I will wait to pass judgement until I hear Gibbs talk to the media after practice. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

08-21-2007, 12:58 PM	#87
chrisl4064 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lake Travis, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 786	Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey?? this release, if true is one of the stupidest things we could have done. and i say ONE of the stupidest because i could think of a few more that i wouldnt be suprised to see.

08-21-2007, 01:00 PM	#88
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey?? I think Godfrey is this year's version of James Posey. Plain and simple.

08-21-2007, 01:01 PM	#90
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey?? I'm not saying that Marshall deserved to start or was some stud, but I do remember a lot of big plays. #1. In Week 16 of the 2005 season, Drew Bledsoe threw a pass over the middle to Witten and Marshall tipped the ball into Marcus Washington's hands, who then ran about 40 yards downfield. #2. In Week 17 of the 2005 season, Eli Manning threw a pass to Shockey and Marshall picked the pass and ran do the Giants' 20 yard line. #3. In Week 7(?) of the 2005 season, Marshall picked off a pass by Kerry Collins and scampered into the endzone for a TD. I'm sure there are more, but he was a playmaker in 2005.

Lemar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??

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