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Old 10-23-2007, 02:11 PM   #1
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and last time I checked we have scored on Defense in 2 of the last 3 games and if our FG kicker hits the FG on the opening drive of the 3rd Qtr we have 24 points, so 24 points is not out of the question and remember Jsaon Campell overthrew a wide open Santana Moss on monday night that would have given us 27
Never said it was out of the question, just not realistic is all.

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if our FG kicker hits the FG on the opening drive of the 3rd Qtr we have 24 points
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Jason Campell overthrew a wide open Santana Moss on monday night that would have given us 27
So now you're saying that "realistic" is based on "if"?

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maybe the cowpukes have only roy horse collar williams to put chains on the pats 3 magnificent receivers
Maybe and maybe not, but I doubt to see what Roy Williams has to do with whether or not the Redskins defensive backfield can do it either, which is what I thought was being discussed. But, not that it would have mattered, Newman was playing injured at about 75% and Henry did not play due to injury in the Patriots game. Dallas had second stringers in there most of the game. Again, not that it would have mattered.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:06 PM   #2
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The Redskins have only scored 24 points or more for ONE game all season, and that was at home against the Lions. Now they are on the road against the best team in football.

The Patriots defense has NEVER surrendered more than 20 points all season. (The two games where Miami and Dallas scored higher than 20 was due to a the opposing defense scoring on a turnover).

So how can you use the word "realistically" in that prediction? Because based on the stats, and, how the 'Skins have performed recently on offense that is not a "realistic" prediction.?
I know you're not a Redskins fan, so I'll give you some wiggle-room to make some stupid statements (j/k). We have been playing down to the level of our opponents. For the most part, when we get leads, we sit on them. We don't feel compelled to go for the throat and risk losing games because our defense is usually good enough to come in and close them. Your logic that "because they haven't put up lots of points, they can't put up lots of points" is wrong IMO.

We're going to try to play up to the level of the Pats and, though we will almost certainly lose by at least one touchdown and our offense will struggle, I don't think it is at all unrealistic to expect them to score more than 20 points. If the Fins can do it, I see no reason why we cannot.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:45 PM   #3
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The Redskins have only scored 24 points or more for ONE game all season, and that was at home against the Lions. Now they are on the road against the best team in football.

The Patriots defense has NEVER surrendered more than 20 points all season. (The two games where Miami and Dallas scored higher than 20 was due to a the opposing defense scoring on a turnover).

So how can you use the word "realistically" in that prediction? Because based on the stats, and, how the 'Skins have performed recently on offense that is not a "realistic" prediction.?
It makes sense because if the Patriots do happen to hang 38 on them, there will be A LOT more offensive snaps for a very potent offense. Obviously snaps have a strong correlation with points, much stronger than TOP for example.

The Redskins had a lot of snaps vs. Detroit. In their other games...not so much.

Is more snaps always a good thing? Not if the other team also gets more snaps. But it does mean more points.

I don't think the Pats are going to get close to 38 points against the No. 1 passing defense. More likely if they win, it will be because they had success running, and scored 24 points or something and beat us 24-21.

24-21 seems close, but if the Pats had three long methodical TD drives against the Redskins that ate up a ton of clock, then obviously they got it done.

One of the reasons the offense hasn't been scoring is that they are USUALLY playing with a lead. We would all still wish they would add to that lead, but teams have shut us down when we try to run with a lead (And I would give the credit to our opponents for this). That eats up clock AND forces a lot of punts. If we are forced to play from behind, something that has not happened prior to the late third quarter this year, I think the passing offense could put up a lot of points.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:14 PM   #4
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Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.

This game will be the barometer of how far we've come as a team, even if we lose with backup offensive linemen we will know what areas we need to improve on.
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:39 PM   #5
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Tom Brady, meet Mr. Carter. You'll have plenty of opportunities to get to know him better on Sunday.

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Old 10-23-2007, 01:41 PM   #6
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I'm gonna jump on the homer boat and call a win, mostly because of the reports about the offensive players being ashamed of their performance last week, I think they really feel they need to step up this game and take some weight off the D and that might be the best motivation anyone can give.
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Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.

I love the optimism of the post.. I don't really see a logical way for us to go into there and beat them, but I'm willing to buy into 'on any given Sunday' so I have a glimmer of hope..
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Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.

I still say we score at least 24.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:32 PM   #9
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Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.

My 5 reasons...

The Pats are due for an "offweek" at some point, might as well be against us

Indy awaits next week

Our D is pretty good, #1 in the NFC good, and the Pats haven't faced a good D yet

The skins generally play well in games you don't expect them to be in

Joe Gibbs / G Williams have some pride and will instill this in our players this week


My 2 cents...I truly believe this will be closer than people think. If I was a gambler, I'd take the skins as 17 pts underdogs. We may not win but it will be a close game. We'll see.
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Re: 12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.

Again, those jump balls to Moss took advantage of the fact that Cameron Worrell really isn't a football player. That was them exposing a matchup that simply isn't there against the Redskins.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:58 PM   #11
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It's going to take an inspired effort from both players and coaching staff to get the win.
...yes it can be done..WE HAVE TO PLAY WAY ABOVE OUR CURRENT GAME ...get the defense to shut down Brady early and the offense needs to be totally on. They need to be up and stay for this game, AS IF IT WAS DALLAS WEEK....Lets get ready to RUMBLE!!!
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:07 PM   #12
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"We’ll probably be the biggest underdog in the history of sports," coach Joe Gibbs said Monday. "Has anything held up against them? Do you have a game plan that will work against them? If you do, leave it here. Because I don’t think anybody else has got one right now. We’re going to struggle hard."

Yikes....that doesn't really inspire confidence!

Gibbs: Redskins are ’biggest underdog in the history of sports’ - BostonHerald.com

EDIT: This does however: "We’re 4-2 and we’re not even close to the things we’re capable of," Portis said. "If we can ever get on track, I think we’re going to be dangerous."(same article)
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:10 PM   #13
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"We’ll probably be the biggest underdog in the history of sports," coach Joe Gibbs said Monday. "Has anything held up against them? Do you have a game plan that will work against them? If you do, leave it here. Because I don’t think anybody else has got one right now. We’re going to struggle hard."

Yikes....that doesn't really inspire confidence!

Gibbs: Redskins are ’biggest underdog in the history of sports’ - BostonHerald.com

Typical Joe Gibbs...you can count on a different sentiment in the locker room and on the practice field.
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Don't be surprised if some trick plays are in the plan. I can see ARE and Portis warming their arms up.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:19 PM   #15
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"Let me start by congratulating the Red Sox on winning the American League and getting into the World Series," he said. "This will continue to make an exciting week."

"My focus is on Washington and that's where it needs to be," he said. "They're tough. They've won four and they could have easily won a couple more, so we'll have our hands full. That's all I'm worried about right now."
Washington is 4-2 and has allowed an NFC-low 88 points.
Thought even though Gibbs sounds perplexed in his press conference, you guys might enjoy the respect that Belichick is giving the Redskins.

Link to full story: ESPN - Belichick congratulates Sox but focuses on Redskins - NFL
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