Who is "weakest" team with winning record?

[#56fanatic]

unfortunately I believe we are one of the top weaker teams with a winning record. of the teams mentioned, Cleveland can at least put some points on the board to keep them in games. We can't put more than 20 on the worst D in the league. Carolina is awful, i put them above us. That may be the only team I have above us as far as worst team with a winning record (4-4 i think - technically not a winning record, but not a losing one either)

[MTK]

After last night the Ravens would be my clear choice.

McNair really doesn't have much left, they should just start Boller.

[sportscurmudgeon]

The Ravens are shot. Maybe 7 wins for the year; surely no more than 8.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

amen PSU

[WillH]

I don't have much of an opinion about all of this, but I will say that the Redskins seem to be pretty mediocre. I am happy with th 5-3 record, and hopeful that we will finish the season out strong, and I believe we have a legitimate chance of going 10-6 this season which is about what I predicted after Pre-season.

BUT this team has done very little to inspire confidence, and I think it is just as likely we go 8-8, which would be a huge disappointment IMO.

There is a lot of football to be played, and as far as Gibbs goes I am a Kool Aid drinker. I think this team will have a better second half, especially if the running game builds off of this past weekend, that will hopefully give Campbell more time in the pocket to take more then one deep shot a game, and hopefully that will help him and Moss get on the same page.

[Dirtbag59]

Its the Patriots

[SmootSmack]

This is interesting:

Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: 2007 Quality Standings

[BDBohnzie]

Matty - If Boller was the answer, Billick would have stuck with him during McNair's injury. Billick knows Boller isn't worth the Charmin Extra-Soft he wipes his butt with, and that McNair is his best chance to win.

As far as the Skins go, the defense has bailed the offense out more than once, and until the offense can continually produce as they did in the Lions game, it's going to be close games from here on out. Does that make them weak? No, just makes them aware that any mistake can be quite costly.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Matty - If Boller was the answer, Billick would have stuck with him during McNair's injury. Billick knows Boller isn't worth the Charmin Extra-Soft he wipes his butt with, and that McNair is his best chance to win.

As far as the Skins go, the defense has bailed the offense out more than once, and until the offense can continually produce as they did in the Lions game, it's going to be close games from here on out. Does that make them weak? No, just makes them aware that any mistake can be quite costly.

Oh my god McNair is AWFUL. If Billick does not start Boller then he should be fired. Watching McNair the other night it reminded me of watching Brunell in the rain at Philly last year. McNair looked old, slow and brittle the other night and he refused to throw the ball over 8 yards. He IS NOT a starting NFL QB anymore. I know Boller might not be the guy but anything is better than McNair at this point.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Oh my god McNair is AWFUL. If Billick does not start Boller then he should be fired. Watching McNair the other night it reminded me of watching Brunell in the rain at Philly last year. McNair looked old, slow and brittle the other night and he refused to throw the ball over 8 yards. He IS NOT a starting NFL QB anymore. I know Boller might not be the guy but anything is better than McNair at this point.

McNair may be a shell of his former self, but think about what you are arguing here.

Boller (2007)--5.4 yards/attempt (against the softest schedule ever), and a bleh 59.5% completion.

McNair (2007)--5.5 yards/attempt (against a harder schedule), but has completed 64.8%

So Boller is just as bad in that offense than McNair is, but more likely to F up. No worse as far as getting the ball down the field.

Shouldn't have cut Derek Anderson

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

McNair may be a shell of his former self, but think about what you are arguing here.

Boller (2007)--5.4 yards/attempt (against the softest schedule ever), and a bleh 59.5% completion.

McNair (2007)--5.5 yards/attempt (against a harder schedule), but has completed 64.8%

So Boller is just as bad in that offense than McNair is, but more likely to F up. No worse as far as getting the ball down the field.

Shouldn't have cut Derek Anderson

McNair should complete 80% cause he never thows the ball more than 5 yards. It's almost comical. At least Boller has the ability and it looks like he has improved in the limited time he has played. McNair just can't do it anymore and it's time to move on.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

McNair should complete 80% cause he never thows the ball more than 5 yards. It's almost comical. At least Boller has the ability and it looks like he has improved in the limited time he has played. McNair just can't do it anymore and it's time to move on.

But what is your excuse for Boller then? If McNair is that he never throws downfield (seems to fit), why has Boller been even worse?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Matty - If Boller was the answer, Billick would have stuck with him during McNair's injury. Billick knows Boller isn't worth the Charmin Extra-Soft he wipes his butt with, and that McNair is his best chance to win.

If McNair is their best option with the sorry state he's in, they are truly F'd.

I know Boller isn't anything special but at least he's got a live arm. McNair is completely broken down right now. It's sad to watch him like that.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If McNair is their best option with the sorry state he's in, they are truly F'd.

I know Boller isn't anything special but at least he's got a live arm. McNair is completely broken down right now. It's sad to watch him like that.

yeah he really has dropped alot over the past couple of seasons.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If McNair is their best option with the sorry state he's in, they are truly F'd.

Why yes, yes they are...and with the injuries to their defense, games like their "effort" against Pittsburgh will become more of the norm.

It's pretty much 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other in regards to McNair and Boller. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I think the team rallies around McNair more than Boller, so you have to go with that veteran leadership. However, McNair's been on his last legs for several years now, and I wouldn't be surprised if they start to utilize a two QB system...