The re-sign Orakpo thread

Mechanix544 · 12-25-2013, 05:40 PM

I think with the injury, we could possibly get him for 8 mil per year, more realistically 9 or 9.5, but 4 years 36-39 mil for Orakpo is a good deal. Unless he is wanting 10 mil per or more, sign him and keep your bookends intact, so that when we DO get a competent secondary, Our defense will finally look MUCH improved. I don't think he will command over 10 mil per year.

Yes he is the best we have. But there is no way he is top 5 at his position right now, just no way. He MIGHT scratch the top 10, but 10 mil per year is too much.

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-25-2013, 05:54 PM

Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested.

SFREDSKIN · 12-26-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested.

And who do suggest we replace him with? Did u see what happened after got hurt against the cowboys? No pass rush and DeMarco Murray scores. He is the Redskins best pass rusher.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-26-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

And who do suggest we replace him with? Did u see what happened after got hurt against the cowboys? No pass rush and DeMarco Murray scores. He is the Redskins best pass rusher.

Bob Saget obviously.

Gary84Clark · 12-26-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested.

Big Hair wants a team full of back ups who over achieve on the field and get paid back up money. He wants a lot of draft picks. Like St. Louis have although these extra draft picks have not gotten them to the playoffs. He wants all NFL players to be paid less. He is an ideologue that wants the NFL returned to purity.

The Goat · 12-25-2013, 10:03 PM

Hope y'all had a very merry Christmas.

Assuming we have new HC and DC, it'll be interesting what their "outside" perspective is on orakpo and his value. I think a 4-3 coach will see a ton of value in Rak and want to coach him into elite echelons.

Regardless, I think we should up the best offer he gets by a bonus. He's earned it.

celts32 · 12-26-2013, 12:22 PM

I want him back but it has to be reasonable numbers. When is the last time he came through with a pass rush in a big situation with a game on the line? It's hard to remember. He never developed the way I hoped he would. How much of that is playing him out of position...don't know.

Not sure if we can carry the number but I would almost rather franchise him and let him play 1 year in a 43 defense to establish his actual worth.

MTK · 12-26-2013, 12:50 PM

Like Vinny in reverse ^

delusional optimist · 01-06-2014, 04:45 AM

I agree that we shouldn't overpay but i think we should make him a fair offer and then the ball is in his court

The thing is he plays a position that is generally a highly payed position because edgerushers that can actually produce don't grow on trees. If we were to let him walk edge rusher becomes our number one need which we would probably have to overpay somebody to fill. See how that works? He's may not be in the elite class but he is well above average and i thought his play against the run and in coverage was much improved this year. Also if we change from a 3-4 to a 4-3 that could be a very good thing for his production. He has never been allowed to play a full time DE position in the NFL although when he was coming out in the draft most projected that to be his best position

over the mountain · 01-06-2014, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by delusional optimist

I agree that we shouldn't overpay but i think we should make him a fair offer and then the ball is in his court

The thing is he plays a position that is generally a highly payed position because edgerushers that can actually produce don't grow on trees. If we were to let him walk edge rusher becomes our number one need which we would probably have to overpay somebody to fill. See how that works? He's may not be in the elite class but he is well above average and i thought his play against the run and in coverage was much improved this year. Also if we change from a 3-4 to a 4-3 that could be a very good thing for his production. He has never been allowed to play a full time DE position in the NFL although when he was coming out in the draft most projected that to be his best position

i agree with all this.

imo it all depends on how much rak is looking for and how interested he is in testing FA.

if i was a player id want to test FA.

Skins4L · 01-06-2014, 05:05 AM

ive heard Vincent Rey brought up already. ROLB.. solid upside player from cincy in fact he was very active in that last wildcard even.

if we did release Orakpo i wouldnt be completly pissed if we replaced him with Rey to save some cap for more roster balace. But of course i want Orakpo back hes breaching elite form and he missed our playoff run in `12. We need him back. Him and DHall. I hope Hall takes a nice deal but hes coming off two solid years. Oraks gonna be pursued if we release with no immediate resig. i could see like the patriots with him already hes a smart LB any coach would take him 3-4 4-3 he could fit

12-25-2013, 05:40 PM	#1
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread I think with the injury, we could possibly get him for 8 mil per year, more realistically 9 or 9.5, but 4 years 36-39 mil for Orakpo is a good deal. Unless he is wanting 10 mil per or more, sign him and keep your bookends intact, so that when we DO get a competent secondary, Our defense will finally look MUCH improved. I don't think he will command over 10 mil per year. Yes he is the best we have. But there is no way he is top 5 at his position right now, just no way. He MIGHT scratch the top 10, but 10 mil per year is too much. Last edited by Mechanix544; 12-25-2013 at 05:45 PM.

12-25-2013, 05:54 PM	#2
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

12-25-2013, 10:03 PM	#6
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread Hope y'all had a very merry Christmas. Assuming we have new HC and DC, it'll be interesting what their "outside" perspective is on orakpo and his value. I think a 4-3 coach will see a ton of value in Rak and want to coach him into elite echelons. Regardless, I think we should up the best offer he gets by a bonus. He's earned it. __________________ 24-34

12-26-2013, 12:22 PM	#7
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread I want him back but it has to be reasonable numbers. When is the last time he came through with a pass rush in a big situation with a game on the line? It's hard to remember. He never developed the way I hoped he would. How much of that is playing him out of position...don't know. Not sure if we can carry the number but I would almost rather franchise him and let him play 1 year in a 43 defense to establish his actual worth. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

12-26-2013, 12:50 PM	#8
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01-06-2014, 04:45 AM	#9
delusional optimist Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 14	Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread I agree that we shouldn't overpay but i think we should make him a fair offer and then the ball is in his court The thing is he plays a position that is generally a highly payed position because edgerushers that can actually produce don't grow on trees. If we were to let him walk edge rusher becomes our number one need which we would probably have to overpay somebody to fill. See how that works? He's may not be in the elite class but he is well above average and i thought his play against the run and in coverage was much improved this year. Also if we change from a 3-4 to a 4-3 that could be a very good thing for his production. He has never been allowed to play a full time DE position in the NFL although when he was coming out in the draft most projected that to be his best position

01-06-2014, 05:05 AM	#11
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 886	Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread ive heard Vincent Rey brought up already. ROLB.. solid upside player from cincy in fact he was very active in that last wildcard even. if we did release Orakpo i wouldnt be completly pissed if we replaced him with Rey to save some cap for more roster balace. But of course i want Orakpo back hes breaching elite form and he missed our playoff run in `12. We need him back. Him and DHall. I hope Hall takes a nice deal but hes coming off two solid years. Oraks gonna be pursued if we release with no immediate resig. i could see like the patriots with him already hes a smart LB any coach would take him 3-4 4-3 he could fit __________________ ALL HAIL

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