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[Chico23231]

Punch sober the fuck up.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Punch sober the fuck up.

Chico man I am just being cautiously pessimistic instead of cautiously optimistic. After that last game I think I have every reason in the world to do so. Next year is year three of the new regime. Are you that confident that we are taking the next step? I mean I understand being hopeful and all, but I see not much difference between this team or teams over the last 20 years. At least not where it counts. Which is winning big games. Winning playoff games. Making the playoffs consecutive years. Ill get outta here until i cool off, but you know damn well that you are as disappointed in this team as I am.

[MTK]

Jesus H Christ.

[MTK]

If you can't see any progress there's just no helping you.

We finished last in the division 8 out of 10 times in 2004-2014. We won 7 games combined in 2013-2014.

But yeah, it's the same old Skins, no progress whatsoever. For real??

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

If you can't see any progress there's just no helping you.



We finished last in the division 8 out of 10 times in 2004-2014. We won 7 games combined in 2013-2014.



But yeah, it's the same old Skins, no progress whatsoever. For real??

Matty what I see is enough progress not to finish last. Lol. Though if im not mistaken we just finished third. 2013-14 was pure shit. Yea we are better than that. So what? We are not the Cleveland Browns.
If this team is progressing-truly progressing- than Id expect we are back in the playoffs next year. Scot has another draft, and free agency period. Provided we stay healthy- for the most part- than logical progress would point to a playoff birth. Maybe their is a difference of opinion about what we consider progress. Simply not being a doormat team is not what I had in mind. Yes we are not a laughing stock. Though that last game was pretty laughable.
If you are right about us trending up than there is no where to go but the playoffs next year - again barring major injuries, or weed suspensions. Fucking Trent might have cost us that one damn win we needed.
Im a fucking die hard. Make the playoffs next year and make me eat crow. Please!!!! Im dying for some crow man. But to think that this team will win 7 games next year does not make me a drunk idiot who makes things up. Lol. I still see a shit ton of holes and a major problem with our coaching staff. Sorry.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Matty what I see is enough progress not to finish last. Lol. Though if im not mistaken we just finished third. 2013-14 was pure shit. Yea we are better than that. So what? We are not the Cleveland Browns.
If this team is progressing-truly progressing- than Id expect we are back in the playoffs next year. Scot has another draft, and free agency period. Provided we stay healthy- for the most part- than logical progress would point to a playoff birth. Maybe their is a difference of opinion about what we consider progress. Simply not being a doormat team is not what I had in mind. Yes we are not a laughing stock. Though that last game was pretty laughable.
If you are right about us trending up than there is no where to go but the playoffs next year - again barring major injuries, or weed suspensions. Fucking Trent might have cost us that one damn win we needed.
Im a fucking die hard. Make the playoffs next year and make me eat crow. Please!!!! Im dying for some crow man. But to think that this team will win 7 games next year does not make me a drunk idiot who makes things up. Lol. I still see a shit ton of holes and a major problem with our coaching staff. Sorry.

Punch I have always respected you but I feel you are overreacting on this one. How do you even have expectations for next year? They haven't made a single move yet. They probably are still conducting exit interviews today. Maybe I will start being concerned if we haven't made any moves and training camp is about to start. But we're a long way off from that.

I think people lose sight of the fact this is the ultimate team sport. No one man can move the ball down the field single-handedly. No one man can stop every play on defense. We lost yesterday and to the Panthers because the entire team looked bad. I am putting that on Jay Gruden, it is on him and the staff to have us prepared for big games, and they clearly weren't. But it's not all on him, we still have a talent deficiency and that's on McC. Let's just give them another offseason to get their shit together and see where we're at after next year. Anything less than playoffs is obviously a disappointment.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Punch I have always respected you but I feel you are overreacting on this one. How do you even have expectations for next year? They haven't made a single move yet. They probably are still conducting exit interviews today. Maybe I will start being concerned if we haven't made any moves and training camp is about to start. But we're a long way off from that.



I think people lose sight of the fact this is the ultimate team sport. No one man can move the ball down the field single-handedly. No one man can stop every play on defense. We lost yesterday and to the Panthers because the entire team looked bad. I am putting that on Jay Gruden, it is on him and the staff to have us prepared for big games, and they clearly weren't. But it's not all on him, we still have a talent deficiency and that's on McC. Let's just give them another offseason to get their shit together and see where we're at after next year. Anything less than playoffs is obviously a disappointment.

I hate the Giants with a passion. I live in Giant country. Im definitely overreacting to a point. I do not want to burn it all down. I said that.
What I see when I try to be real about our situation is a quarterback who MIGHT be the guy if he can stop with the deadly mistakes in crunch time. A coaching staff that is still completely in question. A defense that certainly needs at leadt three or four difference makers. An oline that inexplicably cannot run block. A need for a real rb too. A wr corp that might need a tight end due to Reeds injury woes. Djax probably being gone. A first round pick that we have no idea about. A kicking problem.
I mean I hate to sound so pessimistic bur this teams future has a shit ton of question marks, not the feel of a team on the verge of great things. Again sorry. Lol.

[SFREDSKIN]

Dale Earhadt Jr. says:

Scot McCloughan drafts are starting to bear fruit. Deep at WR even w/ unsigned FAs. Improved OLine. Need to retain coaching top to bottom...

[MTK]

I guess in 2 years we needed to be SB bound to please some people. Oh well. Reality sucks.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

I guess in 2 years we needed to be SB bound to please some people. Oh well. Reality sucks.

No not at all. The other night was the litmus test for me that we have all been waiting for. We failed. As i get over it I will put everything in perspective and again I say next year I expect to make the playoffs if we are where you think we are. Again barring major injuries. So maybe my reaction is a year early. If we finish 7-9 next year or 8-8 than can i be concerned?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I guess in 2 years we needed to be SB bound to please some people. Oh well. Reality sucks.

At the beginning of the season I thought we could've had a losing record and been a better quality team than they were in 2015. They ended up with a slightly above average record and were a better team. They had a chance to win 12 games this year, there is no way we had a chance to win 12 in 2015. Back to back winning seasons is a step in the right direction. Players and fans should be disappointed with yesterday but I see future potential for this team which I haven't felt in a long time.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

At the beginning of the season I thought we could've had a losing record and been a better quality team than they were in 2015. They ended up with a slightly above average record and were a better team. They had a chance to win 12 games this year, there is no way we had a chance to win 12 in 2015. Back to back winning seasons is a step in the right direction. Players and fans should be disappointed with yesterday but I see future potential for this team which I haven't felt in a long time.

I definitely agree. Progress wasn't made in the W/L column but I definitely felt we were a better team this year and had more quality wins.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I think we take the step next year. I was a year ahead this year. I see us winning exactly 10 games next year. This is based off the defensive improvements I think we'll see after another FA period and draft.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I think we take the step next year. I was a year ahead this year. I see us winning exactly 10 games next year. This is based off the defensive improvements I think we'll see after another FA period and draft.

Giants and Dallas should be good again. Eagles should improve too. Chiefs, Raiders, Arizona, Denver, Seattle, Vikings, Saints. 10 wins is a tall order. Of course a lot can happen between now and than. Upon first glance that is not looking like an easy road.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Giants and Dallas should be good again. Eagles should improve too. Chiefs, Raiders, Arizona, Denver, Seattle, Vikings, Saints. 10 wins is a tall order. Of course a lot can happen between now and than. Upon first glance that is not looking like an easy road.

We could have beat the Cowboys twice, 1-1 against the Giants, and 2-0 against Eagles. Not saying we will, but there is no reason we can't go 4-2 in those games. I think 6-4 vs. the remaining 10 isn't shooting too high.

We have extra picks and good cap. We should be able to improve as much or more than any other team in the NFL if we have a good FA/draft.

So I'll go with 10.