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Re: RIP Dwayne Haskins
I see it very differently. The decisions you make that lead to the end of your life are a major narrative in your life story, and ultimately, who you were as a person.
Were you a victim of someone else? Did you put yourself in a situation that led to your death? Were you breaking a law when you died? Did you die through circumstances entirely outside of your control? This all matters greatly. Some of these comments in here read like "Welp, everything happens for a reason." Yeah ok, but sometimes that reason is you're stupid and you make bad decisions. We still need more facts to come out and they surely will, but F if I'm not going to judge him differently if he was a guy helping someone out who needed it, vs if he was drunk as F and decided to walk onto the highway and wave down a dump truck from the middle of the right lane.
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Re: RIP Dwayne Haskins
While that may be true in some circumstances, there are also circumstances where the decisions you make that ultimately lead to the end of your life may have absolutely nothing to do with who you were as a person.
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The summation of your life could go something like: Chief X Phackter was a great guy, hard worker, good family man, devoted equally to his wife, children, job, and football team. He made a wrong turn one night and was caught in the crossfire between two men who had been arguing over where snow was being placed after shoveling. It escalated to violence, and Chief X Phackter caught a bullet, an innocent victim. I think you and I are saying the same thing. If you make a decision and just got unlucky, it goes into the narrative. If you got out of your car on an interstate bombed out of your gourd and tried to walk up to a moving dumptruck and order flapjacks like it's a drivethru, that goes into the narrative too.
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When I first moved to Dc after college went out with co workers drank too much really not knowing my limits. Got on 495 went the wrong way around to get back to Tyson’s corner, had to puke and did so in my shirt while driving. I am lucky I didn’t kill someone get killed or a dui. Never driven drunk ever again. It was one of those times where you don’t eat put down 5 quick ones then it hits you half way home.
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I don't wish you were in an accident, let alone a fatal one. But I wish the police caught you.
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And normalize is your word. My word was mistakes, young people make them. |
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No I can definitively say I haven't done anything that would qualify as putting my life in danger. I did see my friends do things like drive when they shouldn't have. Always pissed me off and I've lost friends over it before (for the best). Like I said I come from a family who was stung by pain from that particular action, so maybe I'm different. Driving while under the influence is not uncommon, and I get your point. But yeah, do something like that and it ends your life or another's, and you're damn right it should be more than a footnote in the book that was your life. Like it or not, you can be defined by a mistake. If more people thought that way, maybe driving drunk would be a bit more uncommon.
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Re: RIP Dwayne Haskins
My point being: the end of your life is by definition one of the very biggest events in your life. How that event occurred could determine whether your life lasted 20 years, or 40, or 80. So any decision you made that impacted or possibly caused that event, is absolutely not just a tiny footnote in the book of your life.
If Haskins was trying to chase a small child across the interstate to rescue and bring to safety and got hit by a truck in the process, or if Haskins was drunk with a stripper and he aimlessly wandered into the road, those circumstances absolutely matter. 100%. It's ridiculous to say 'what difference does it make, a young man is dead either way, what a shame.' Meaningless platitudes. Is his family missing the light of his life today because of horrible tragic circumstances, or are they missing it because of his own immature and dangerous actions? That matters and should be reflected on accordingly.
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Re: RIP Dwayne Haskins
Bottom line is, whatever the circumstances were, or the decisions he made that night leading up to his death - they do not define the man. Is it part of his story? Yes. Does it define who he was as a person? Well I don't know him personally, but my guess is those who do, would say no.
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It's also fine to say you were fun to be around, and always had a smile, and had an infectious personality, all those things. And sometimes the end of life event reads as an outlier. Those are the true tragedies.
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Re: RIP Dwayne Haskins
This thread is ready to be locked up.
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You should try to be more respectful of the friends and family who are grieving their great loss. Some of them are grieving the loss of the young man who was once their little boy who they have loved unconditionally since the moment he was born. Just try to imagine how you would feel right now if you were in their shoes and be kind. |
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