Sean Taylor Spitting Video (merged)

Stacks42 · 01-11-2006, 01:12 PM

A friend of mine who authenticates videos, said that the video looks doctored. He told me to watch the film, check out how, the spitting section of the video comes up, the video breaks up into single frames, not regular slo mo. I am sure that some crappy website would have this visual proof, before ESPN or any other media outlet (thats saracasm).

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-11-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

A friend of mine who authenticates videos, said that the video looks doctored. He told me to watch the film, check out how, the spitting section of the video comes up, the video breaks up into single frames, not regular slo mo. I am sure that some crappy website would have this visual proof, before ESPN or any other media outlet (thats saracasm).

I would not like to believe in this conspiracy theory and before we lose any credibility as Redskins fans, I motion for us to take this with a grain of salt and think about Seattle (even though I did start the thread

).

Cooley 350Z · 01-11-2006, 01:19 PM

Guys, lets save all the legal/ethical debates for the offseason. I can't believe we are one win away from the conference championship game & here we are discussing someone's saliva. If he did it, he should be ashamed, if he didn't then he got screwed out of $17K, if the tape has been tampered with then someone has too much time on their hands. Either way, it changes nothing. Get past it...

dgack · 01-11-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just curious, if the roles were reversed, if Pittman spit at Taylor, would you have the same exact opinion of the incident?? I'm sure you'll say yes for the sake of supporting your "unemotional views", but I'm inclined to think you wouldn't have the same view.

What an absurd question. Is this not a site for fans of the Redskins? Why on Earth are you so hell-bent on tearing down the guys who play for them?

Q: What does Michael Pittman say to a woman with two black eyes?
A: Nothing. He's already told that bitch twice to sit down and shut up.

70Chip · 01-11-2006, 02:23 PM

Just watching 'Sounds of the Game' on NFL Network and they had the referee Mike Carey wired for sound. He was all over Taylor right away. Another ref tried to lobby for offsetting fouls for Pittman's punch but was rebuffed by Carey. The other official responds "Are you sure Mike?" Carey then announces that there will be no flag for retaliation. Later, when Omar Stoutmire asks Carey why Taylor was ejected, Carey tells him that he spit on Pittman and nearly spit on him (Carey) as well. "That would have been really bad" says Carey. After watching that I have no doubt about what happened. Taylor was the spitter. If I am Gregg Williams I am not happy about being lied to either. Everyone makes mistakes but to lie about it is childish and reveals a lack of character. He put Williams in bad position.

Alot of the highlights were based around Mike Carey's being miked and I have to say that he did a great job in that game. If the league had 15 more like him Mike Perreira would have alot less explaining to do on Wednesdays.

onlydarksets · 01-11-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Just watching 'Sounds of the Game' on NFL Network and they had the referee Mike Carey wired for sound. He was all over Taylor right away. Another ref tried to lobby for offsetting fouls for Pittman's punch but was rebuffed by Carey. The other official responds "Are you sure Mike?" Carey then announces that there will be no flag for retaliation. Later, when Omar Stoutmire asks Carey why Taylor was ejected, Carey tells him that he spit on Pittman and nearly spit on him (Carey) as well. "That would have been really bad" says Carey. After watching that I have no doubt about what happened. Taylor was the spitter. If I am Gregg Williams I am not happy about being lied to either. Everyone makes mistakes but to lie about it is childish and reveals a lack of character. He put Williams in bad position.

FYI, TMC posted that clip to the first post of this thread.

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Alot of the highlights were based around Mike Carey's being miked and I have to say that he did a great job in that game. If the league had 15 more like him Mike Perreira would have alot less explaining to do on Wednesdays.

I agree 100% - I really thought the refs did a good job in that game. I would have liked to see an offsetting penalty on Pittman, but I can understand Carey's decision.

12thMan · 01-11-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Just watching 'Sounds of the Game' on NFL Network and they had the referee Mike Carey wired for sound. He was all over Taylor right away. Another ref tried to lobby for offsetting fouls for Pittman's punch but was rebuffed by Carey. The other official responds "Are you sure Mike?" Carey then announces that there will be no flag for retaliation. Later, when Omar Stoutmire asks Carey why Taylor was ejected, Carey tells him that he spit on Pittman and nearly spit on him (Carey) as well. "That would have been really bad" says Carey. After watching that I have no doubt about what happened. Taylor was the spitter. If I am Gregg Williams I am not happy about being lied to either. Everyone makes mistakes but to lie about it is childish and reveals a lack of character. He put Williams in bad position.

Alot of the highlights were based around Mike Carey's being miked and I have to say that he did a great job in that game. If the league had 15 more like him Mike Perreira would have alot less explaining to do on Wednesdays.

Okay, I didn't see the program...could you see Taylor spit from their camera angles or was it the same angle just with Carey being miked?

I don't know, I'm just asking.

MTK · 01-11-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dgack

What an absurd question. Is this not a site for fans of the Redskins? Why on Earth are you so hell-bent on tearing down the guys who play for them?

Q: What does Michael Pittman say to a woman with two black eyes?
A: Nothing. He's already told that bitch twice to sit down and shut up.

One has nothing to do with the other.

I'm not tearing down ST, he's done that to himself quite well.

70Chip · 01-11-2006, 02:34 PM

Its NFL Films so it's a different view than ESPN. I didn't see any spit per se but Carey definitely saw something. It may be that the video that shows the spit was doctored to frame a guilty man. Someone with better computers than me should compare. I use dial up so I don't even like to download video. It takes too long. However, I suspect that if the NFL films angle was definitive it would be played ad nauseum in order to put Williams on the spot.

"How does it feel to be lied to coach?"

MTK · 01-11-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Its NFL Films so it's a different view than ESPN. I didn't see any spit per se but Carey definitely saw something. It may be that the video that shows the spit was doctored to frame a guilty man. Someone with better computers than me should compare. I use dial up so I don't even like to download video. It takes too long. However, I suspect that if the NFL films angle was definitive it would be played ad nauseum in order to put Williams on the spot.

"How does it feel to be lied to coach?"

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-11-2006, 02:39 PM

I think Pittman spit on Taylor and it's just running off Taylor's facemask! That sandbaggin' son-of-a-bitch!

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-11-2006, 02:40 PM

I gotta' say, doctored or not, I REALLY feel like we would have seen THAT much spit on the original replay.

12thMan · 01-11-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I gotta' say, doctored or not, I REALLY feel like we would have seen THAT much spit on the original replay.

That's pretty much the way I feel too. Not that Taylor didn't do it, but, WOW, it's very visual, clear, and evident that Taylor spat. On all the other cameras, you don't see anything.....at all.

Schneed10 · 01-11-2006, 03:21 PM

The other thing, if you look at it a couple times again and again, you see that the spit falls from Taylor's face mask and as it goes to the ground, you can see it getting closer to Taylor.

The only way you can spit and then have the spit appear to come towards your body is if:
A) You are walking towards the spit and you catch up to it a bit.
B) You can spit boomerang style, projecting it out and then have it change direction in mid-air.

I'm not even kidding, this is a magic-loogie case! But seriously, the more I look at it, the more obvious it is that it's doctored. We all saw the replays on TV, and we know Taylor was not moving towards Pittman. He was standing still the whole time, and yet the spit fell towards Taylor's body.

Schneed10 · 01-11-2006, 03:30 PM

Also, I have a hard time believing that if Taylor really wanted to spit in Pittman's face, he wouldn't have been capable of spraying him right in the grill. If you're trying to spit on someone, that loogie comes flying out with force. You don't miss from 2 feet away. It doesn't make sense why a loog would dribble out of his mouth like the video shows.

01-11-2006, 01:12 PM	#91
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 836	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video A friend of mine who authenticates videos, said that the video looks doctored. He told me to watch the film, check out how, the spitting section of the video comes up, the video breaks up into single frames, not regular slo mo. I am sure that some crappy website would have this visual proof, before ESPN or any other media outlet (thats saracasm). __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

01-11-2006, 01:19 PM	#93
Cooley 350Z Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 42 Posts: 209	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video Guys, lets save all the legal/ethical debates for the offseason. I can't believe we are one win away from the conference championship game & here we are discussing someone's saliva. If he did it, he should be ashamed, if he didn't then he got screwed out of $17K, if the tape has been tampered with then someone has too much time on their hands. Either way, it changes nothing. Get past it... __________________ <PeterGriffinVoice> Lotta Honky's In Here... </PeterGriffinVoice>

01-11-2006, 02:23 PM	#95
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video Just watching 'Sounds of the Game' on NFL Network and they had the referee Mike Carey wired for sound. He was all over Taylor right away. Another ref tried to lobby for offsetting fouls for Pittman's punch but was rebuffed by Carey. The other official responds "Are you sure Mike?" Carey then announces that there will be no flag for retaliation. Later, when Omar Stoutmire asks Carey why Taylor was ejected, Carey tells him that he spit on Pittman and nearly spit on him (Carey) as well. "That would have been really bad" says Carey. After watching that I have no doubt about what happened. Taylor was the spitter. If I am Gregg Williams I am not happy about being lied to either. Everyone makes mistakes but to lie about it is childish and reveals a lack of character. He put Williams in bad position. Alot of the highlights were based around Mike Carey's being miked and I have to say that he did a great job in that game. If the league had 15 more like him Mike Perreira would have alot less explaining to do on Wednesdays. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

01-11-2006, 02:34 PM	#99
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video Its NFL Films so it's a different view than ESPN. I didn't see any spit per se but Carey definitely saw something. It may be that the video that shows the spit was doctored to frame a guilty man. Someone with better computers than me should compare. I use dial up so I don't even like to download video. It takes too long. However, I suspect that if the NFL films angle was definitive it would be played ad nauseum in order to put Williams on the spot. "How does it feel to be lied to coach?" __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

01-11-2006, 02:39 PM	#101
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video I think Pittman spit on Taylor and it's just running off Taylor's facemask! That sandbaggin' son-of-a-bitch! __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-11-2006, 02:40 PM	#102
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video I gotta' say, doctored or not, I REALLY feel like we would have seen THAT much spit on the original replay. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-11-2006, 03:21 PM	#104
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video The other thing, if you look at it a couple times again and again, you see that the spit falls from Taylor's face mask and as it goes to the ground, you can see it getting closer to Taylor. The only way you can spit and then have the spit appear to come towards your body is if: A) You are walking towards the spit and you catch up to it a bit. B) You can spit boomerang style, projecting it out and then have it change direction in mid-air. I'm not even kidding, this is a magic-loogie case! But seriously, the more I look at it, the more obvious it is that it's doctored. We all saw the replays on TV, and we know Taylor was not moving towards Pittman. He was standing still the whole time, and yet the spit fell towards Taylor's body.

01-11-2006, 03:30 PM	#105
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video Also, I have a hard time believing that if Taylor really wanted to spit in Pittman's face, he wouldn't have been capable of spraying him right in the grill. If you're trying to spit on someone, that loogie comes flying out with force. You don't miss from 2 feet away. It doesn't make sense why a loog would dribble out of his mouth like the video shows.

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