Redskins vs. Packers predictions

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I doubt that considering we played better in the second half than the first vs the Lions.
Moss is more explosive and a better WR. I disagree with this comment a lot. While I obviously agree missing ARE will hurt, it won't more than missing Moss. Moss is our table setter, and he is a home run hitter. Moss has been clutch for us for years, while ARE has had 2 good games...well 1 good game, and 1 good half.
I think this is a classic case of us over valueing a player. I like the guy, but he's no Santana Moss.

Overall, I agree with every one of your points. However, Moss has not had the most reliable hands this year and I think Randle El has been more clutch TO THIS POINT in 2007. I think that Randle El is developing a nice raport with JC and that makes a difference. Be honest, based solely on this year's performance: On third and 6, who do you trust to catch the crossing pattern, Randle El or Moss? So far, it's been #82.

[Cowell]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Overall, I agree with every one of your points. However, Moss has not had the most reliable hands this year and I think Randle El has been more clutch TO THIS POINT in 2007. I think that Randle El is developing a nice raport with JC and that makes a difference. Be honest, based solely on this year's performance: On third and 6, who do you trust to catch the crossing pattern, Randle El or Moss? So far, it's been #82.

I agree completely. ARE has been much more reliable then Moss the entire year. I know it's been a short year, but Santana is dropping catches I could make. I still like Santana and I like to seem him back in our offense, but IMO ARE is more reliable right now.

[redskinsfanatic]

sinse santanna has been out two games,and randall el has'nt missed any,should'nt campbell depend on him more?brandon lloyd can't even catch the clap in a cathouse.who else other than cooley can campbell depend on when santanna is'nt playing????

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Cowell

I agree completely. ARE has been much more reliable then Moss the entire year. I know it's been a short year, but Santana is dropping catches I could make. I still like Santana and I like to seem him back in our offense, but IMO ARE is more reliable right now.

Wasn't that just one game?

[Cowell]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Wasn't that just one game?

What do you mean? Just one game of Santana dropping easy catches? I'm pretty sure he has dropped some pretty easy ones in every game he has participated in. I'm sure he did it in the Dolphins and Giants game. It seems to me like he is dropping all the over-the-middle passes. The ones that put him at the greatest risk of getting nailed. Maybe he is scared? Who knows.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'm gonna' have to disagree on that one. I'm pretty sure he's made all his catches this year aside from that crazy Dolphins game.

[SmootSmack]

I really really hope Moss vs. Randle El is not becoming the next Portis vs. Betts on this site.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I really really hope Moss vs. Randle El is not becoming the next Portis vs. Betts on this site.

me too that would be very annoying.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I really really hope Moss vs. Randle El is not becoming the next Portis vs. Betts on this site.

Or Brunell vs. Collins.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by PackerBacker

I'll give you the low down from a packer fan perspective.

The biggest part of the game is going to be turnovers. Farve has been good this year and has only really had one bad INT (to Urlacher), but if he gets behind he starts to just chuck it anywhere. However, I am hoping that the packers will start off with some conservative passes, and run the ball almost a 50% ratio. This will most definatly change if there is even the slightest sign of unsuccess. Where I hypothesize the game will be won is in the Packer D getting some ever turnovers. I am looking for 2INTs, and at least one sack from Arron Kampman or KGB resulting in a fumble (they have been getting very close and seem due).

I feel that success for the Redskins will only come from running the ball, or from some sort of fluke Redskin TDs (Kick/Punt TDs, fumbles, etc.) that will put them in the lead early and cause Farve to get risky. It is true that the packers have been horrible covering TEs, but you gotta figure they will catch on sometime and it maybe this week with a chance of both Moss and Randel el being out.

What redskin fans want to be afraid of is: Lambeau Field, Packer D, and watch out for Vernand Morency (He is coming of an injury and is about to peak). There is alot of emotion in Lambeau and this is a huge game, because there is a Bye week after this and the Pack don't want to go into that with 2 losses. I am afraid of Clinton Portis and Betts breaking big plays, I truly feel Campbell is due for a bad week.

But either way good luck and congrads on a good record.

Thanks for the viewpoint from a Packers' fan. But to me, it seems you are hoping to win - hoping that Campbell will have a bad day, hoping that the Packers will cover TEs better, hoping Morency breaks out, hoping that the pass rush forces turnovers, hoping that there will be balance with the Packers offense.

To me, as long as the redskins continue playing the way that they have played (minus Giants second half game), then they will win.

[warriorzpath]

Prediction:
If a Packers running back runs more than 15 times in the game, he will not be able to finish the game because of an injury.

The Packers offense better get ready for a physical game, because the redskins D will be hitting hard, early, and often.

[Hail2em]

Skins 23
Pack 21

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Overall, I agree with every one of your points. However, Moss has not had the most reliable hands this year and I think Randle El has been more clutch TO THIS POINT in 2007. I think that Randle El is developing a nice raport with JC and that makes a difference. Be honest, based solely on this year's performance: On third and 6, who do you trust to catch the crossing pattern, Randle El or Moss? So far, it's been #82.

It's really hard to argue Moss on this because of his dropped passes. But those are not typical of Moss in the past. I think he's trying to make too much happen and he's getting ahead of himself. He will be there when we need him. We can't throw Moss under the bus because of a couple games, he's been as good as any top wr in the game when he plays. Overall, to me, he's a top 5 talent. ARE is not. Not saying ARE sucks or anything, but there was a reason he was 3rd WR last year and had to fight a horrible Lloyd this year just to get 2nd. Sure he's been good for us, and he's been fairly clutch for us as well (usually in the absence of Moss), but that does not mean he's Moss talent. I do completely understand your points, and they are valid, but to answer your question, I would want Moss catching that pass. You want the ball in your best players hands as often as possible. That's why I want Portis rushing instead of Betts, and why I wanted Campbell instead of Brunell, and why I want Moss over ARE. ARE is a great compliment to Moss, but Moss is still the man.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I really really hope Moss vs. Randle El is not becoming the next Portis vs. Betts on this site.

It is. I've already heard this waaaay too much. We are an impatient breed I guess.

[davy]

Skins 16-21 Packers