Reasons for drafting Sanchez

[itvnetop]

Staying Pat

We'll see if the words hold truth in less than 24 hours.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Staying Pat

We'll see if the words hold truth in less than 24 hours.

Notice he said he's not trading next year's first round pick. He never said anything about next year's 2nd, 3rd, or a current player...

Also from the article:

He noted that the only time his club recently did swap the following year's No. 1 pick, it was to acquire quarterback Jason Campbell in 2005 -- "and it worked out quite well," Snyder said.

So well in fact, that they can't wait to get rid of him.

[53Fan]

That's right. 4pm eastern.

[djnemo65]

Don't worry, I'll be waking up at 5 am to catch the fireworks.

[Hamoskinz]

Thanks for the info. Its too early to drink beer at 9am, considering I need to get drunk by the time we trade up to get Sanchez. Cheers and don't get too disappointed if we trade our 1st pick this year, next year's and our 3rd to get Sanchez... Try to see the silver lining (if any).

HTTR

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Hamoskinz

Thanks for the info. Its too early to drink beer at 9am, considering I need to get drunk by the time we trade up to get Sanchez. Cheers and don't get too disappointed if we trade our 1st pick this year, next year's and our 3rd to get Sanchez... Try to see the silver lining (if any).

HTTR

Dude, I'll bet we trade down. I really don't see a trade up. So it should be 11 o'clock your time before we pick if we stand pat and it may be mid-afternoon for you before we actually make a pick. I'd go ahead and chill that beer now.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Dude, I'll bet we trade down. I really don't see a trade up. So it should be 11 o'clock your time before we pick if we stand pat and it may be mid-afternoon for you before we actually make a pick. I'd go ahead and chill that beer now.

I agree Lotus. It's either stand pat or trade down. In fact I'm probably going to Nagshead again tomorrow and enjoy the beach. That is if I don't stay up too late. Should be home around 6 when the Redskins are making up there mind whether to trade down or make the pick.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I agree Lotus. It's either stand pat or trade down. In fact I'm probably going to Nagshead again tomorrow and enjoy the beach. That is if I don't stay up too late. Should be home around 6 when the Redskins are making up there mind whether to trade down or make the pick.

That sounds like an excellent plan and I'll bet you don't miss a thing Redskin-wise. Enjoy!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I agree Lotus. It's either stand pat or trade down. In fact I'm probably going to Nagshead again tomorrow and enjoy the beach. That is if I don't stay up too late. Should be home around 6 when the Redskins are making up there mind whether to trade down or make the pick.

That sounds fun...can't say I'm gonna be able to stay away from the tv. I like to predict who we take after each pick and see how it changes.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

That sounds fun...can't say I'm gonna be able to stay away from the tv. I like to predict who we take after each pick and see how it changes.

Me too. For me the first day of the draft is the greatest day of football between February and September. I don't want to miss anything. After this weekend it is a football desert until fall.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Hamoskinz

Thanks for the info. Its too early to drink beer at 9am, considering I need to get drunk by the time we trade up to get Sanchez. Cheers and don't get too disappointed if we trade our 1st pick this year, next year's and our 3rd to get Sanchez... Try to see the silver lining (if any).

HTTR

To early to drink at 9AM? What kind of beer drinker are you?

[SBXVII]

Partly due to the Skins themselves, Campbell has had to learn something like 7 offensive systems in the past 9 years. I don't know whats going on in Campbells head, but on some level, thats had to have some sort of affect on him.

BHA, I'm not trying to be a dirt ball but I'm kinda tired of all the excuses. I'm not blaming you I used them also and it all started with Ramsey. Poor guy had his bell rung too many time he got gun shy. QB's always took hits through out their careers. Ramsey still sucks and he's been to many different teams. I honestly like JC's personality. I like that he's calm but he seems way too calm. If given a decent 2 min. drill he would need 4. He's just one of those people that is never in a hurry. The friend who you complain about taking his time getting ready to go out. I like JC but even last yr felt change was needed, but who do we use? Collins, I don't think so. Colt was a Rookie and probably still has things he needs to learn.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

BHA, I'm not trying to be a dirt ball but I'm kinda tired of all the excuses. I'm not blaming you I used them also and it all started with Ramsey. Poor guy had his bell rung too many time he got gun shy. QB's always took hits through out their careers. Ramsey still sucks and he's been to many different teams. I honestly like JC's personality. I like that he's calm but he seems way too calm. If given a decent 2 min. drill he would need 4. He's just one of those people that is never in a hurry. The friend who you complain about taking his time getting ready to go out. I like JC but even last yr felt change was needed, but who do we use? Collins, I don't think so. Colt was a Rookie and probably still has things he needs to learn.

Amen. I said this in another thread, but on some level I'm really trying to convince myself that drafting Sanchez might not be such a bad idea after all.

And you make a good point about Jason's demeanor. I think we all have to ask ourselves this question: What are the actual chances that Jason is destined to be an absolute superstar headed for Super Bowl MVP awards and a spot in the Hall of Fame? Doesn't someone like that have to show us more than what we've seen? Even when things around him aren't perfect, like the best O-line in the league and Pro Bowl wideouts? The truly great quarterbacks have something that makes everyone around them better.

Could it be that maybe, just maybe, Jason Campbell isn't that quarterback, and that he may never be?

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Amen. I said this in another thread, but on some level I'm really trying to convince myself that drafting Sanchez might not be such a bad idea after all.

And you make a good point about Jason's demeanor. I think we all have to ask ourselves this question: What are the actual chances that Jason is destined to be an absolute superstar headed for Super Bowl MVP awards and a spot in the Hall of Fame? Doesn't someone like that have to show us more than what we've seen? Even when things around him aren't perfect, like the best O-line in the league and Pro Bowl wideouts? The truly great quarterbacks have something that makes everyone around them better.

Could it be that maybe, just maybe, Jason Campbell isn't that quarterback, and that he may never be?

While we are applying that absurd standard to our quarterbacks, running them out of town for not being generationally elite when, really, maybe three guys per generation actually are, teams are winning superbowls with guys like Brad Johnson, or Eli Manning, or Dilfer, or Brady and Roethlesberger in their first go rounds, or getting there with reclamation projects like Kurt Warner or Rich Gannon.

Does anyone here think Jason is going to the hall of fame? That he'll ever even be top 10 yet alone elite? That his well-discussed flaws can be coached away or overcome through perserverence? I don't, but if there's any team that should have the historical perspective to recognize that you don't necessarily need elite quarterback talent to be successful, it's us right?

In my opinion, Sanchez, like Cutler, would be an upgrade over Campbell. But that's an irrelevant standard as well. The question is not is there some theoretical quarterback better than the one we have? Instead, we have to ask is someone like Sanchez better than Campbell and the 2 or 3 other critical players you forego the right to acquire.

I just think when you invest as much as we already have in Campbell, both in terms of time and draft picks, you have to see things to their conclusion.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

While we are applying that absurd standard to our quarterbacks, running them out of town for not being generationally elite when, really, maybe three guys per generation actually are, teams are winning superbowls with guys like Brad Johnson, or Eli Manning, or Dilfer, or Brady and Roethlesberger in their first go rounds, or getting there with reclamation projects like Kurt Warner or Rich Gannon.

Does anyone here think Jason is going to the hall of fame? That he'll ever even be top 10 yet alone elite? That his well-discussed flaws can be coached away or overcome through perserverence? I don't, but if there's any team that should have the historical perspective to recognize that you don't necessarily need elite quarterback talent to be successful, it's us right?

In my opinion, Sanchez, like Cutler, would be an upgrade over Campbell. But that's an irrelevant standard as well. The question is not is there some theoretical quarterback better than the one we have? Instead, we have to ask is someone like Sanchez better than Campbell and the 2 or 3 other critical players you forego the right to acquire.

I just think when you invest as much as we already have in Campbell, both in terms of time and draft picks, you have to see things to their conclusion.

Nice post...I said some similar things about the true scarcity of elite QBs some time ago but the discussion just got minced up into semantics and whatnot.

...I still hope JC is our QB for the future and Danny is forced to eat humble pie. And just the same I'm very curious to see all the reaction when Jason has a better season than both Cutler (on his new team w/o all the talent around him and in his new division that has some serious defenses) and Sanchez, wherever he might land.