Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1

[MTK]

Plummer didn't have a "rocket arm" necessarily, but he wasn't lacking in the arm strength department either.

[SmootSmack]

Guess we'll find out soon enough when Plummer takes the field as our starting QB in 2010. Then all you haters will recognize the truth BHA's been spittin'!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Guess we'll find out soon enough when Plummer takes the field as our starting QB in 2010. Then all you haters will recognize the truth BHA's been spittin'!

Wait, Vinny Testaverde is not available?

[Dirtbag59]

Injury prone my ass:

"The biggest news so far is that Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford physically looks fantastic. He has bulked up to 236 pounds and measured in at 6-foot-4. This is great to see because, regardless of the injury, another concern about Bradford was his tall, lengthy frame and some questioned his ability to fill it out. Those concerns are gone and NFL scouts are pleased."

He's as good as gone with the Rams first pick.

[MTK]

Apparently the WP is the Plummer hype machine, he owes us one

[#56fanatic]

In a way for me, that could mean us taking the best olineman in the draft leaving us to take a QB in the later rounds. Maybe the kid from Central Mich in the 2nd or even McCoy in the second. Not sold on McCoy yet, but we will see in his workouts. He has the arm and completion % was off the charts even throwing the ball 40 / 50 times a game. The kid from Central Michigan said he a good prospect, so if we do keep JC with the plan of playing until the next guy comes in then this would be a good situation for us.

[CultBrennan59]

Mark Schlerthe and Tedy Brushci were asked specifically Should the redskins draft a QB in the first round, and they both said NO, and that we have more pressing needs. Add that to the other people who think we shouldn't get a QB and that fact that the past few days people have been so certain that the rams will take Sam Bradford, that I just look more and more to us hopefully getting Okung.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Mark Schlerthe and Tedy Brushci were asked specifically Should the redskins draft a QB in the first round, and they both said NO, and that we have more pressing needs. Add that to the other people who think we shouldn't get a QB and that fact that the past few days people have been so certain that the rams will take Sam Bradford, that I just look more and more to us hopefully getting Okung.

The bad news is that Bradford is going to be great and there's no way that he will fall to us.

The good news is that Okung measured in at 6-5, 307 with very long 36" arms and huge 10-1/2" hands at the NFL Combine. Then he put up 38 reps on the bench press. That just adds to many positives we already know about him. He seems to be a great prospect.

[DIE-NASTY]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

The bad news is that Bradford is going to be great and there's no way that he will fall to us.

The good news is that Okung measured in at 6-5, 307 with very long 36" arms and huge 10-1/2" hands at the NFL Combine. Then he put up 38 reps on the bench press. That just adds to many positives we already know about him. He seems to be a great prospect.

Jason White threw for 75 tds and only 19 ints (avg 3500 passing yards) in his final two years at Oklahoma and never amounted to anything. Sam bradford...86 tds, 16 ints and 7800 passing yards...pretty similar.

White had bad knees but still i think an argument could be made (and i think it has) that Bradford is a system qb.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

The bad news is that Bradford is going to be great and there's no way that he will fall to us.

The good news is that Okung measured in at 6-5, 307 with very long 36" arms and huge 10-1/2" hands at the NFL Combine. Then he put up 38 reps on the bench press. That just adds to many positives we already know about him. He seems to be a great prospect.

I like both prospects, but the more I hear that he played in a spread offense, and the fact that Landry Jones played just as well as soon as Bradford got hurt, the more I'm thinking on just sticking with Okung, the bad thing is that the lions may get Okung. Which leads me to say that the worst possible scenario for us would be bradford to st louis and okung to detroit, then we wouldn't have one of the 2 best players we wanted.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I like both prospects, but the more I hear that he played in a spread offense, and the fact that Landry Jones played just as well as soon as Bradford got hurt, the more I'm thinking on just sticking with Okung, the bad thing is that the lions may get Okung. Which leads me to say that the worst possible scenario for us would be bradford to st louis and okung to detroit, then we wouldn't have one of the 2 best players we wanted.

Landry Jones did play well. But saying that Jones played just as well is a huge slap in the face to just how well Bradford was at the collegiate level. I mean you're talking about a Heisman winner and comparing him to a guy who wasn't even close to being a Heisman fianlist. Lets start with accuracy:

Landry Jones: 58% in the spread
Sam Bradford: 67% in the spread 2008, 69% Pro Style Offense 2007

Landry Jones QB Rating: 130.83
Sam Bradford: 180.4 in the spread 2008, 176.52 in the pro style offense

Landry Jones TD Passes to Int's: 26 TD's 14 ints
Sam Bradford: 50 TD's 8 Ints 2008, 36 TD's 8 Ints 2007
(granted Landry Jones started less games due to the games Bradford did play but even then it would still be hard for him to compensate by throwing 24 TD's in 1.5 games or 10 for that matter)

Landry Jones Yards: 3,198 yards
Sam Bradford: 4,720 yards in 2008, 3,121 yards in 2007

To put it in NFL terms saying that Landry Jones even came close to matching Bradford production wise is like saying that 2009 Jason Campbell played almost as well as 2007 Tom Brady. (Landry Jones NFL QB rating: 86, Sam Bradford 126 in 2008, 123 in 2007).

When you compare theres just no comparison. So no more crazy talk about Landry = Bradford, Cult

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It hasn't occurred to anyone that maybe we'll be running a lot of spread offense formations. I mean it's known that Shanahan spent time attending Patriots' practices studying what they do. And the Pats run a lot of the spread offense with Brady in the shotgun. Or that he spent time with Urban Meyer learning about his spread offense. And not to mention the Texans (where Kyle Shanahan just was) ran a lot of spread offense formations.

And then on top of all that is the fact that Bradford has shown (his freshman year) that he can also be successful behind center.

In conclusion, Bradford will do just fine...and if you're concerned about him just draft Jevan Snead!

It's unfortunate that it has pretty much taken the fact that we now will want what we can't have for some people to realize just how much of a prospect Bradford is. Still I knew it was pretty much sealed when I heard that Bradford weighed in at 236.

I mean I know the numbers at the combine only mean so much but so much of the skeptism towards Bradford has been due to that shoulder, where if you listen to some non-doctor posters is practically hanging by a string, and the lanky frame that couldn't possibly stand up to the beating that our line (which apparently is going to be the exact same of last year) will cause Bradford to go through. 236 pounds with most of the weight gained being muscle is overkill. Actually makes me wonder if he could stand more hits now then Big Ben.

By the way Smootsmack stop trying to circumvent our swear filter. You know Spread is a dirty word. I'm disgraced to have you as a mod.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Landry Jones did play well. But saying that Jones played just as well is a huge slap in the face to just how well Bradford was at the collegiate level. I mean you're talking about a Heisman winner and comparing him to a guy who wasn't even close to being a Heisman fianlist. Lets start with accuracy:

Landry Jones: 58% in the spread
Sam Bradford: 67% in the spread 2008, 69% Pro Style Offense 2007

Landry Jones QB Rating: 130.83
Sam Bradford: 180.4 in the spread 2008, 176.52 in the pro style offense

Landry Jones TD Passes to Int's: 26 TD's 14 ints
Sam Bradford: 50 TD's 8 Ints 2008, 36 TD's 8 Ints 2007
(granted Landry Jones started less games due to the games Bradford did play but even then it would still be hard for him to compensate by throwing 24 TD's in 1.5 games or 10 for that matter)

Landry Jones Yards: 3,198 yards
Sam Bradford: 4,720 yards in 2008, 3,121 yards in 2007

To put it in NFL terms saying that Landry Jones even came close to matching Bradford production wise is like saying that 2009 Jason Campbell played almost as well as 2007 Tom Brady. (Landry Jones NFL QB rating: 86, Sam Bradford 126 in 2008, 123 in 2007).

When you compare theres just no comparison. So no more crazy talk about Landry = Bradford, Cult



It's unfortunate that it has pretty much taken the fact that we now will want what we can't have for some people to realize just how much of a prospect Bradford is. Still I knew it was pretty much sealed when I heard that Bradford weighed in at 236.

I mean I know the numbers at the combine only mean so much but so much of the skeptism towards Bradford has been due to that shoulder, where if you listen to some non-doctor posters is practically hanging by a string, and the lanky frame that couldn't possibly stand up to the beating that our line (which apparently is going to be the exact same of last year) will cause Bradford to go through. 236 pounds with most of the weight gained being muscle is overkill. Actually makes me wonder if he could stand more hits now then Big Ben.

By the way Smootsmack stop trying to circumvent our swear filter. You know Spread is a dirty word. I'm disgraced to have you as a mod.

A) Where did you get these Stats?
B) Why is it when I'm all for Bradford I get a majority of people here bashing me for wanting a QB when we should get OLineman, and when I don't want Bradford I get people wanting to get Bradford and sticking up for him?



I can't wait for FA and the draft....

[53Fan]

When Mark Schlereth and Tedy Bruschi were asked on NFL Live whether the Redskins should consider a QB in the first round, Schlereth gave a resounding NO! They both agreed the Redskins had too many problems to worry about QB. He suggested O-Line.

^
Beat me to it CB59.

[Dirtbag59]

Just wanted to point out an ironic parallel. See there was this running back out of Oklahoma that just flat out dominated at the collegiate level. Yet the problem was he had a history of injuries and we already has a great running back. Today our Free Safety is Laron Landry, the safe pick. Just saying.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Just wanted to point out an ironic parallel. See there was this running back out of Oklahoma that just flat out dominated at the collegiate level. Yet the problem was he had a history of injuries and we already has a great running back. Today our Free Safety is Laron Landry, the safe pick. Just saying.

Peterson would be hurt badly behind our line though.