Bountygate Punishment for the Saints

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by mooby

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You think we should get compensation for the Saints losing draft picks? Call me crazy but I highly doubt that. I think the best scenario is we don't end up paying the rest of the fine next year. We're not getting free draft picks, and if we are they won't be as high as the 2nd or 1st round.

I don't expect it but I have heard draft picks as possible compensation being tossed around before.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Is There anyway that we get the saints 2nd picks as compensation should we win in arbitration but lose out on getting all the money back?

Zero chance

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Zero chance

Who gets those picks then? Or does everyone just slide up one pick?

[warriorzpath]

NFL = No F***ing-around League

[diehardskin2982]

the picks just won't exist. Remember the year the Patriots lost their 1st rounder for the tapes. there was only 31 picks in round one.

[Mechanix544]

I should think their pick gets bypassed in the draft, and everyone moves up a slot. Pretty nice.

[Lotus]

Saints fans are furious. They are going berserk. And already you can buy "Free Payton" t-shirts.

[spAtt]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Saints fans are furious. They are going berserk. And already you can buy "Free Payton" t-shirts.

I thought this was refereeing to manning in the Broncos at first....lol

[GMScud]

Well, Warren Sapp called out Jeremy Shockey as the whistleblower behind this whole thing.

Warren Sapp claims Jeremy Shockey 'snitch' in Bountygate - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

[jamf]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, Warren Sapp called out Jeremy Shockey as the whistleblower behind this whole thing.

Warren Sapp claims Jeremy Shockey 'snitch' in Bountygate - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

I saw that on NFL network, It's incredible that Sapp would out someone. I have a feeling Shockey's career will end this year...

[FRPLG]

I think it is super harsh. And probably deserved. Here's a case where people actually did something wrong and got punished for it. How novel.

[skinsfan69]

Mr. Commish needs to really have some of his power stripped away. The guy is an idiot. What the Saints did was wrong. But you're going to take away peoples way of making a living? For something that's been going on since the start of football? Really? The owners need to step in here and get this clown under control. It's like Goddell thinks he freakin' God or something... like he's trying too hard to prove that he's some kind of tough guy, with his fines, suspensions, can't hit wr's, QB's and what not. Enough already.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Mr. Commish needs to really have some of his power stripped away. The guy is an idiot. What the Saints did was wrong. But you're going to take away peoples way of making a living? For something that's been going on since the start of football? Really? The owners need to step in here and get this clown under control. It's like Goddell thinks he freakin' God or something... like he's trying too hard to prove that he's some kind of tough guy, with his fines, suspensions, can't hit wr's, QB's and what not. Enough already.

Last time the owners stepped in we lost $36 million in cap space.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Mr. Commish needs to really have some of his power stripped away. The guy is an idiot. What the Saints did was wrong. But you're going to take away peoples way of making a living? For something that's been going on since the start of football? Really? The owners need to step in here and get this clown under control. It's like Goddell thinks he freakin' God or something... like he's trying too hard to prove that he's some kind of tough guy, with his fines, suspensions, can't hit wr's, QB's and what not. Enough already.

If you think that the Management Council - - made up of owners - - did not know how all this was proceeding and what was coming down BEFORE it hit the wires, you are living in a delusion. They knew and they approved - - tacitly.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Roger Goodell has lost his mind. These suspensions are too harsh. The cap penalties on the Cowboys and Redskins was too harsh. Under Goodell's watch the game is getting weaker and weaker. ............. ... The Saints might not have a team. What about Williams former teams. Are the Bills and Redskins going to be penalized. This reeks!

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Crap decision because way to many other teams do it, and it's been going on in the NFL forever. Goodell is a moron, get rid of him.

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

You really think that is deserved ?? You gotta be getting me man .. this is football ... 99% of the NFL players don't think this is deserved .. this is by far the most BS move the God-dell has ever done ... the fact that SpyGate didn't get the hoodie suspended and this blows a team away for a YEAR .. ........ ...........the Shield is out of control with power.

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Mr. Commish needs to really have some of his power stripped away. The guy is an idiot. What the Saints did was wrong. But you're going to take away peoples way of making a living? For something that's been going on since the start of football? Really? ........

Some of you really need to talk less and read more. This isn't about your perception of what they are trying to do with football. This isn't about a bounty system that Gregg Williams has been doing for years on end. This isn't about a man drunk with power trying to exert his will on the game we all love. This isn't about any of those things. This is about a coverup, lying, and deception. The initial "punishment" from the NFL was a simple warning..."don't do it". That's it. Nothing. Zilch. Why? Because they do know that many teams do it. However, when they approach you about it, you acknowledge it, and change your course of action.

What did the Saints do? They lied about it. Denied it. Covered it up for a grand total of 3 years. THIS is what this is about, not the actual bounty which you all keep harping on. I think we all know that the coverup on scandals generally make things worse. Take a look at the MLB steroid scandals. Do people even talk about the guys that came out and admitted it? Nope. Who do we harp on? They guys that are trying to cover it up.

Stop. Think. Stop overreacting. Goodell is doing the job he's paid to do, and with the blessings of the owners, even if it doesn't always pan out for them. Goodell has shown throughout his tenure so far that he will not accept being lied/deceived to. Vick did it and got slammed. Pacman Jones did it and got slammed. What did you think was going to happen when the Saints did it? Arrogance is the cause of a many man's downfall. I feel no pity for any involved.