Washington Redskins vs Detroit Lions Pregame Thread

[punch it in]

We win a close one, a real close one....
Skins - 31
Lions - 30.99999999

Edit: thanks Matty - that is the spark we needed!

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's John Keim, he tends to be on point.

Funny thing is all we heard in camp was how great he looked.

These guys need the hits and live action to really be accurately judged not only by the coaches but also themselves.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Trent absolutely schooled Matthews when they were matched up, and has been one of the few bright spots on offense this year. The dude who called Williams overrated is clueless about football. People who analyze and appreciate the battles in the trenches know better.

You must be relying on the one play in the 2nd qtr that Aikman praised TW for "that play".

If you watched the game on DVR and see TW driven back into RG3s face on consecutive plays late in the first quarter, or watched him not recognize CM coming off the edge on the WR screen and attempt to cut him rather than ignore him, or the multiple plays where he's driven backwards on runs or barely gets a stalemate with no drive.....despite outweighing OLBs by 40 lbs. and you want to call those "bright spots" then OK.

But I've never analyzed any football and am certainly clueless and you know much better.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You must be relying on the one play in the 2nd qtr that Aikman praised TW for "that play".

If you watched the game on DVR and see TW driven back into RG3s face on consecutive plays late in the first quarter, or watched him not recognize CM coming off the edge on the WR screen and attempt to cut him rather than ignore him, or the multiple plays where he's driven backwards on runs or barely gets a stalemate with no drive.....despite outweighing OLBs by 40 lbs. and you want to call those "bright spots" then OK.

But I've never analyzed any football and am certainly clueless and you know much better.

Apply cold water to burned area.....

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You must be relying on the one play in the 2nd qtr that Aikman praised TW for "that play".

If you watched the game on DVR and see TW driven back into RG3s face on consecutive plays late in the first quarter, or watched him not recognize CM coming off the edge on the WR screen and attempt to cut him rather than ignore him, or the multiple plays where he's driven backwards on runs or barely gets a stalemate with no drive.....despite outweighing OLBs by 40 lbs. and you want to call those "bright spots" then OK.

But I've never analyzed any football and am certainly clueless and you know much better.

On a lot of screens, wide receiver screens included, O-line will not pick them up because they are coached to not pick them up. Clay lined up wide and went straight up field. TW wouldnt have gotten him cut in time anyways based on the angle that CM took. Its a WR screen, they are coached to hit the second level as quick as possible. You are also talking about Clay Mathews. A guy that goes around a lot of LT's anyways, run or pass. Its not as easy as you make it out to be. You have to catch him before you can block him. But according to you, the average person sitting at home watching on Sunday can do that.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Oh, ESPN said it so it must be true.

Please read the blog/articles first before you respond to them- Alfred Morris was saying this about himself.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I dont know if I've ever seen as many people pick the skins to lose,especially the thread starter,and Mattyk too!
As I stated on another thread{that nobody responded to}I watched the 30 minute rewind of Dallas Kc and looking at their defense{both teams}and ours its like night and day.Dallas pass rush looked ferocious and they were so close to sacking the qb numerous times but didnt because Smith was mostly using 3 step drops.
My point on bringing up the Dallas game is kc was beating the pass rush by using the 3 step drop,we need to do the same thing since teams are blitzing us so much.If not that,some designed rollouts to buy some time{remember how Gibbs used to have Joey T do those big designed rollouts?}
The defense is not going to improve that much in one game,but if the offense can get us some damn points in the first half then hopefully the defense can at least keep the yards gained against below an historical level that were on pace for
I dont know how to pick this game,my eyes tell me were so bad that this is gonna be another long afternoon.If we need fg's whos kicking in this game? Is Kai back?And why the hell did we sign a kicker thats never kicked a frickin fg anyway? I cant believe he was the best option out there
Guess I've talked myself into picking Detroit

I didn't pick the Skins to lose, I didn't even make a prediction.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Please read the blog/articles first before you respond to them- Alfred Morris was saying this about himself.

Cheeky.

I did and Shanahan also denies that's the problem.

I don't think it's the problem either. The whole offense if out-of-synch because of playing from behind (thanks defense) and trying to get timing down with Robert. Morris isn't going to be able to run effectively when we aren't able to call running plays. The pistol and read option have been non-existent because of the early point deficits we're facing and also getting our QB back into regular-season shape. Robert is the rusty one. Morris' game is more about running over tacklers, rust won't effect that as much. The first fumble was inexcusable and the second, well, that WAS a bad pitch but he still should have caught it.

I expect a lot of improvement by Griffin and Morris this week.

[Chico23231]

I've seen zero difference in Alfmo game from last year. He looks perfectly fine and has run well. Now RG3 and the Oline, I've seen substantial differences in both their performances so far.

[Krusheasy]

Skins 31 Lions 27

Griffin 275 yards 2 TD 40 yards rushing
Morris 135 yards 1 TD
Garcon 100 yards 1 TD
Hankerson 50 yards
Moss 50 yards 1 TD
Reed 50 yards
Davis 25 yards
Forbath 1 of 1
Defense 2 sacks, 1 INT, 1 TD

Stafford 300 yards 2 TD, 1 INT
Bush 100 yards, 1 TD, 50 yards receiving
Bell 50 yards receiving
Johnson 125 yards 1 TD
Burleson 100 yards
Spurlock 25 yards 1 TD
Pettigrew 30 yards
Akers 2 of 2
Defense 2 sacks, 2 fumble

[CRedskinsRule]

Any word on Bush's injury status. I know he held out of practice yesterday, but is everybody assuming he will play?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Any word on Bush's injury status. I know he held out of practice yesterday, but is everybody assuming he will play?

He's 50/50 last I saw.

Given how bad our D has been they should probably sit him.

[Krusheasy]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Any word on Bush's injury status. I know he held out of practice yesterday, but is everybody assuming he will play?

i'm assuming they juice him up before kickoff

‏@SportingNewsMI 4m

Lions RB Reggie Bush is optimistic about playing Sunday, but he still hasn't been cleared by team doctors. SportingNewsMichigan.com: Michigan Sports News, all on one page

[Monkeydad]

Is Forbath back?

[scowan]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Is Forbath back?

I think Shannahan said Forbath would not be allowed to do anything until Friday.