The Gud, the bad and the Great. Rams Post game reactions

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I do agree with you on this point. I confess that I did perceive your comments as a knock on KC. Sorry about that. If he has to carry us, then we're in trouble. We'll probably win many of the games when we can run the ball and play tough D. Conversely, we'll probably lose nearly all of the games when we're unable to do those things.

Nevertheless, I'm happy where we are right now in what I consider to be Year 1 of our team building and that includes being happy with the play of our current starting QB.

Most of my complaints directed at the offense has been more about Grudens play calling and not KC. I think he is going to throw ints so I think he should open up the passing game some more. Dont abandon the run, just when he does call passes, dont be afraid of KC throwing ints. We were conservative both games with play calling and he still had 2 in the first game and the rams dropped what should have been a sure int yesterday.

Im not saying Gruden has been terrible, just that, at times, he seems to try and get cute with some of his calls. Such as when he does do some first down passing (which imo, is a necessity at times in the NFL) that with our run game going like it has been, to do play action and let KC go for something. I have called for the offense to run screens in the past, but that is something to slow the pass rush down. When the OL is already doing that, then those dont have the effectiveness that they would of had in the past. So dont do screens on 1st down when we do pass there, play action it and look for something down field. KC is a good QB, the ints being his main problem. He is good at Grudens offense, so let him run it.

Granted, I wasnt expecting our OL to dominate 2 of the better D lines in the league nor was I expecting our defense to give up 20 points in 2 games. 20 points in 2 games is beyond fantastic. I keep expecting them to give up 20 points by halftime. If they keep giving up 10 points a game, the conservative play calling is less of an issue.

[WillH]

The passing game will pick up. We will take some more shots downfield. Gruden said the past couple of weeks we were playing really strong D-lines, and so we had to try to get the ball out quickly. So, we will have our opportunities to make some big play in the air.

I agree with others though, that if we get caught up in a shoot out, KC could be a liability. Of course we don't have better options, and we have to work with what we've got, and I think that it is more important that we address other weaknesses on this team first, but if Kirk doesn't improve in this area of his game we will eventually have to look for someone who can.

Again, IMO, he's got a couple of years to improve while we rebuild the team, and it is certainly something many young QB's struggle with and improve at so . . . we'll see.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I hope we have Callahan signed to a 20 year deal.....

He has already earned this years pay in full. Give him a raise as well.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Most of my complaints directed at the offense has been more about Grudens play calling and not KC. I think he is going to throw ints so I think he should open up the passing game some more. Dont abandon the run, just when he does call passes, dont be afraid of KC throwing ints. We were conservative both games with play calling and he still had 2 in the first game and the rams dropped what should have been a sure int yesterday.

Im not saying Gruden has been terrible, just that, at times, he seems to try and get cute with some of his calls. Such as when he does do some first down passing (which imo, is a necessity at times in the NFL) that with our run game going like it has been, to do play action and let KC go for something. I have called for the offense to run screens in the past, but that is something to slow the pass rush down. When the OL is already doing that, then those dont have the effectiveness that they would of had in the past. So dont do screens on 1st down when we do pass there, play action it and look for something down field. KC is a good QB, the ints being his main problem. He is good at Grudens offense, so let him run it.

Granted, I wasnt expecting our OL to dominate 2 of the better D lines in the league nor was I expecting our defense to give up 20 points in 2 games. 20 points in 2 games is beyond fantastic. I keep expecting them to give up 20 points by halftime. If they keep giving up 10 points a game, the conservative play calling is less of an issue.

You realize that Gruden isn't calling the game. Right?

[sdskinsfan2001]

The great - just took my first victory beer sh*t of the season!!

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You realize that Gruden isn't calling the game. Right?

I didnt and Im guessing most fans dont either since I hear a lot of complaining about his playcalling

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You realize that Gruden isn't calling the game. Right?

You dont think he has alot of input - i always thought he was ultimately in charge.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You realize that Gruden isn't calling the game. Right?

When did that change? McVay helps formulate the plan for the offense (as well as Callahan helping with the running game), and each has an input to Jay about what they think should be called, but Gruden has always been the one to call the plays.

Asked point-blank, ‘Who’s going to call plays,’ McVay first responded with a quip: “Well, I’ve had people ask me that, and my answer is: well, if the play works, that was definitely my call. If not, not my call.”

It’s a great question, because ultimately, I know Jay’s been asked a lot about that,” he said. “And when we go into a game plan, as far as the weekly preparations — everybody talks about scripting, and having your openers, and making sure that each situation is covered so that we know what to anticipate — but Jay will be the play-caller.

“But just like any other place around the league, there’s constant communication that goes on [between] myself or coach Callahan, and we’ll do that together. But Jay is ultimately the play-caller, and he decides on the final play that goes in. It is a colaborative process, but he will be the play-caller.

Sean McVay: Jay Gruden Will Call Plays for Redskins Offense « CBS DC

Granted this is from July, but when did he stop calling them?

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

The great - just took my first victory beer sh*t of the season!!

So tempted to make that my first sig on this site

[Chico23231]

Gruden def has his hands in the offense from top to bottom. Im pretty sure he is the authority and has final say in most calls, or at least packages.

You could easily tell the offense seem to be a bit more opened up, but to me I was really impressed with the last drive. Cousins converted a couple key 3rd downs throwing the ball...folks that showing confidence in "your guy". And not just trying to kill the clock and give the ball back after running it 3 times saying "let the defense win it"

[skinsfan69]

Well he obviously has his say in the game plan but he is not actually calling the plays. McVay is and has been all pre season and games one and two.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well he obviously has his say in the game plan but he is not actually calling the plays. McVay is and has been all pre season and games one and two.

Thats been reported somewhere or you are just going by McVay having the OC title?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You realize that Gruden isn't calling the game. Right?

Yes he is

[Schneed10]

It's the same process it's always been, Jay calls the plays but McVay is the one to relay them into the QB via the headset.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yes he is

..and there it is.