Around the NFL Week 2

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by mooby

Has Eli ever had an elite season that ranked amongst the best qb's in the NFL? He's had plenty of above average years, and plenty of "led the league in picks" years but I can't recall one season where he just steamrolled through everybody. Other than that all he's got is 2 titles. With that W-L record I'm really not sure he's worthy.

Perhaps the question to ask is how many other QB's that are 2-time Super Bowl Champions and 2-time Super Bowl MVPs that ARE NOT in the HOF?

He's getting in despite your good argument.

Last name 'Manning', the so-called 'First Family or Football'. He would get in with 1 ring.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Perhaps the question to ask is how many other QB's that are 2-time Super Bowl Champions and 2-time Super Bowl MVPs that ARE NOT in the HOF?

He's getting in despite your good argument.

Last name 'Manning', the so-called 'First Family or Football'. He would get in with 1 ring.

HOF is about the body of work, not just getting a pair of rings. I think he's out.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by MTK

The HOF debate for Eli will be interesting. Can't take away those 2 SB wins but a .500 overall record? Gross.

I agree. In Baltimore the local sports media has a consensus that his in the HOF just not a first ballot but I am not sold. He had several good years but played in the Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rodgers era.

[Schneed10]

His career INT numbers have to compare really poorly to others who are in the HOF. I haven't looked at the numbers, just going off gut.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

His career INT numbers have to compare really poorly to others who are in the HOF. I haven't looked at the numbers, just going off gut.

What about Favre?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

What about Favre?

Favre was a unique circumstance, he also led the league in a whole bunch of career categories when he retired. Eli doesn't have that.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

Favre was a unique circumstance, he also led the league in a whole bunch of career categories when he retired. Eli doesn't have that.

What about Namath?

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Giantone

What about Namath?

I was waiting for someone to say something about Namath.
1 Super Bowl win. And had a career sub-500 winning record.

Still, he gets a Gold Jacket.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

Favre was a unique circumstance, he also led the league in a whole bunch of career categories when he retired. Eli doesn't have that.

He is in the top ten of many of those categoies you mentions and there is this....................


David Diehl
@davediehl66

Eli has as many postseason wins 8 as Steve Young. His 106 completions in the 2011 postseason are the MOST @nfl
history. Has 5 game winning drives in his postseason career, as many as Montana had & one more than Bradshaw. Eli’s 4- 4th quarter playoff comebacks are as many Elway had


and there is this.............

2x SB MVP
2x SB Champ

6th all time in completions
7th all time in pass yds
8th all time in pass tds
3k yds in 15 consecutive seasons, and 7 of those were over 4k yds

ONLY QB to win at Lambeau 2x in the post season
ONLY QB to beat an undefeated team in the SB
ONLY QB to beat Brady and the pats 2x in the SB

Giants ALL TIME leader passing YDS, TDS, and Completions

NFC EAST ALL TIME Leader in passing YDS TDS, and Completions

Most passing yards in a single post season

If you ask me his resume looks pretty good

[Schneed10]

Check out this list. Look for the bolded names, those are the active QBs. Look where Eli ranks among them, among the worst who played long enough to qualify.

We're in an age where if you're getting 2.5% or more of your passes intercepted, it's not good. Eli is at 3.0%.

Aikman and Marino were both at 3.0% too but they played in a downfield era. Their 3.0% was very good compared to the peers of their era. By comparison, Steve Young and Joe Montana were 2.6%. Andy Dalton is a career 2.6% guy in this era.

3.0% from Eli should keep him out, in my opinion.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...erc_career.htm

[skinsfaninok]

Eli is a HOF QB but not first ballot

[BaltimoreSkins]

I don't think Namath gets in if he plays now. He was a star in the AFL and at the time an important piece of the pie to the merger.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I don't think Namath gets in if he plays now. He was a star in the AFL and at the time an important piece of the pie to the merger.

He was basically beat to hell and a physical wreck by the time he hit 27. The way they protect QBs now he might have stayed at his peak a lot longer.

[Buffalo Bob]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...uxD?li=BBnb7Kz

With all the injuries Kaepernick's agent is calling teams and of course left wing media outlets are ripping into them for not signing him. They all seem to ignore the fact he was exposed as a one hit wonder by defenses long before he started kneeling. He also had a lot of other issues besides the kneeling. He has been out of the league for 2 years+. Jimmy Garapolo took the team Kap was 1-10 with and finished up the next year 5-0. What does that tell you? The guy isn't very good. He is in the Sanchez and JJ class, but the USA Today's of the world build him up.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...uxD?li=BBnb7Kz

With all the injuries Kaepernick's agent is calling teams and of course left wing media outlets are ripping into them for not signing him. They all seem to ignore the fact he was exposed as a one hit wonder by defenses long before he started kneeling. He also had a lot of other issues besides the kneeling. He has been out of the league for 2 years+. Jimmy Garapolo took the team Kap was 1-10 with and finished up the next year 5-0. What does that tell you? The guy isn't very good. He is in the Sanchez and JJ class, but the USA Today's of the world build him up.

Not to mention that he sued the NFL and accepted a settlement. Honestly, if anyone sues their employer, don;t you think there is a parting of the ways?