Pre Draft Thread 2.0

SkinzWin · 04-01-2021, 05:31 PM

Per @NickiJhabvala

Ron Rivera says it's not paramount they get their "QB of the future now. In Carolina, he got Cam and then built around him. "I've always thought if you could do it the other way, where you put all the other pieces around them and then go get your QB, that could be good."

Bad news for anyone holding out hope the team trades up to get a top QB prospect. Ain’t happening Jack! BPA!!!

Monkeydad · 04-02-2021, 10:51 AM

We're good at QB for 2021. He's right, it's no longer a dire situation that needs fixed NOW.

skinsfaninok · 04-02-2021, 12:11 PM

I'd be happy with that

punch it in · 04-02-2021, 01:11 PM

That is who i want. I want a tackle and i want Darrisaw

Ohioskins · 04-02-2021, 03:23 PM

I also would be happy with this pick. But we do need linebackers.

sdskinsfan2001 · 04-04-2021, 02:27 AM

3 starters, developmental QB, and some solid guys that would get on the field. Would be pretty happy with this draft.

19: R1 P19 OT Teven Jenkins - Oklahoma State
51: R2 P19 LB Zaven Collins - Tulsa
74: R3 P10 QB Kellen Mond - Texas A&M
82: R3 P18 S Andre Cisco - Syracuse
124: R4 P19 CB Kelvin Joseph - Kentucky
163: R5 P19 TE Hunter Long - Boston College
244: R7 P16 WR Josh Palmer - Tennessee
246: R7 P18 G Michal Menet - Penn State

EdmundDorf · 04-04-2021, 06:56 AM

If they love one of the second tier linebacker, like Collins or Bolton, I wonder whether they are thinking about packaging one of their thirds with the second to move up to the top of the second or back end of the first to enable them to take an OT and the LB. I would move up 3-4 places in the first to secure Darrisaw, but I know nothing so they may prefer Jenkins because he has a mean streak

Chief X_Phackter · 04-04-2021, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

If they love one of the second tier linebacker, like Collins or Bolton, I wonder whether they are thinking about packaging one of their thirds with the second to move up to the top of the second or back end of the first to enable them to take an OT and the LB. I would move up 3-4 places in the first to secure Darrisaw, but I know nothing so they may prefer Jenkins because he has a mean streak

I'd rather trade back and acquire an extra pick or two. There's probably 7-8 starting OTs and 10+ starting LB starters in the top 100. No need to trade up.

EdmundDorf · 04-04-2021, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'd rather trade back and acquire an extra pick or two. There's probably 7-8 starting OTs and 10+ starting LB starters in the top 100. No need to trade up.

I tend to agree, but the quality starting linebacker and OT will be gone by the time we pick in the second, what remains may be serviceable starters, so it is a question would you rather have 2 good quality starters in areas of need or 3-4 average guys..... I don't like to trade up in general but it is a case of what is the best value for the picks you have...... I trust the front office, for now at least, to know more than us and make the right choices

sdskinsfan2001 · 04-04-2021, 12:43 PM

PFF currently has us picking 18th in their simulator. WTF?

sdskinsfan2001 · 04-04-2021, 12:59 PM

Yes, please!!

19: R1 P19 QB Trey Lance - North Dakota State
51: R2 P19 LB Jabril Cox - LSU
74: R3 P10 LB Cameron McGrone - Michigan
82: R3 P18 OT Walker Little - Stanford
124: R4 P19 S Hamsah Nasirildeen - Florida State
163: R5 P19 WR Shi Smith - South Carolina
244: R7 P16 TE Noah Gray - Duke
246: R7 P18 CB DJ Daniel - Georgia

Monkeydad · 04-05-2021, 03:41 PM

Antonio Gibson and Najee Harris would be a fun duo, and cheap for a few years.

Harris would likely be an upgrade in the Barber role.

Chico23231 · 04-05-2021, 03:43 PM

If you want to go with Best Player Available...at 19 who is that?

I think taking the best Free Safety, RB or Guard in the draft is ok at 19. What about the best the slot receiver in the draft like K Toney?

Chico23231 · 04-06-2021, 10:15 AM

My general feeling of what position the Skins will target at 19:

LB: 40%
Tackle:40%
CB: 10%
WR: 10%

I’d give a slight edge to LB right now

Chief X_Phackter · 04-06-2021, 10:57 AM

I like it. Here's mine:

Trade back: 40% - Of course you need a willing trade partner, but given the depth in this draft at the positions of need, I think trading back could be a great option. However, if Surtain, Farley, Darrisaw, Slater, or Parsons are there at 19, I think you have to select one of them.

LB: 25%

OT: 25%

CB: 5%

S: 5%

04-01-2021, 05:31 PM	#1
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,543	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 Per @NickiJhabvala Ron Rivera says it's not paramount they get their "QB of the future now. In Carolina, he got Cam and then built around him. "I've always thought if you could do it the other way, where you put all the other pieces around them and then go get your QB, that could be good." Bad news for anyone holding out hope the team trades up to get a top QB prospect. Ain’t happening Jack! BPA!!! __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Team Heinicke Fan Club punch it in - CEO SkinzWin - President FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment Meks - Director of Marketing

04-02-2021, 10:51 AM	#2
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 We're good at QB for 2021. He's right, it's no longer a dire situation that needs fixed NOW. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

04-02-2021, 12:11 PM	#3
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,178	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 I'd be happy with that __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

04-02-2021, 01:11 PM	#4
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 54 Posts: 24,098	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 That is who i want. I want a tackle and i want Darrisaw

04-02-2021, 03:23 PM	#5
Ohioskins Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Dublin, Ohio Posts: 327	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 I also would be happy with this pick. But we do need linebackers.

04-04-2021, 02:27 AM	#6
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,579	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 3 starters, developmental QB, and some solid guys that would get on the field. Would be pretty happy with this draft. 19: R1 P19 OT Teven Jenkins - Oklahoma State 51: R2 P19 LB Zaven Collins - Tulsa 74: R3 P10 QB Kellen Mond - Texas A&M 82: R3 P18 S Andre Cisco - Syracuse 124: R4 P19 CB Kelvin Joseph - Kentucky 163: R5 P19 TE Hunter Long - Boston College 244: R7 P16 WR Josh Palmer - Tennessee 246: R7 P18 G Michal Menet - Penn State __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

04-04-2021, 06:56 AM	#7
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,926	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 If they love one of the second tier linebacker, like Collins or Bolton, I wonder whether they are thinking about packaging one of their thirds with the second to move up to the top of the second or back end of the first to enable them to take an OT and the LB. I would move up 3-4 places in the first to secure Darrisaw, but I know nothing so they may prefer Jenkins because he has a mean streak

04-04-2021, 12:43 PM	#10
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,579	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 PFF currently has us picking 18th in their simulator. WTF? __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

04-04-2021, 12:59 PM	#11
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,579	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 Yes, please!! 19: R1 P19 QB Trey Lance - North Dakota State 51: R2 P19 LB Jabril Cox - LSU 74: R3 P10 LB Cameron McGrone - Michigan 82: R3 P18 OT Walker Little - Stanford 124: R4 P19 S Hamsah Nasirildeen - Florida State 163: R5 P19 WR Shi Smith - South Carolina 244: R7 P16 TE Noah Gray - Duke 246: R7 P18 CB DJ Daniel - Georgia __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

04-05-2021, 03:41 PM	#12
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 Antonio Gibson and Najee Harris would be a fun duo, and cheap for a few years. Harris would likely be an upgrade in the Barber role. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

04-05-2021, 03:43 PM	#13
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,022	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 If you want to go with Best Player Available...at 19 who is that? I think taking the best Free Safety, RB or Guard in the draft is ok at 19. What about the best the slot receiver in the draft like K Toney? __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

04-06-2021, 10:15 AM	#14
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,022	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 My general feeling of what position the Skins will target at 19: LB: 40% Tackle:40% CB: 10% WR: 10% I’d give a slight edge to LB right now __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

04-06-2021, 10:57 AM	#15
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,644	Re: Pre Draft Thread 2.0 I like it. Here's mine: Trade back: 40% - Of course you need a willing trade partner, but given the depth in this draft at the positions of need, I think trading back could be a great option. However, if Surtain, Farley, Darrisaw, Slater, or Parsons are there at 19, I think you have to select one of them. LB: 25% OT: 25% CB: 5% S: 5%

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