Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[skinsfaninok]

V Davis on KC
"I don't see why he won't be signed, he's everything you want in a QB"

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[warriorzpath]

Cousins openly talking to the media about his contract situation opens himself to any criticism from fans, including me. So stop defending a player crying about feeling slighted for making $20 million. Because bottom line, that's what he's bitching about. I don't want to hear this sh t anymore. He's got such a hard knock life.

So say that I'm reaching if you want but that's what's happening right now. I just don't want to hear rich people problems anymore.

[warriorzpath]

Boohoo. God forbid if he gets hurt and his career is over. What would he do for the rest of his life? He ONLY made $20 million plus thus far. We probably should start collecting money in hat now just in case that happens.

[warriorzpath]

So just get as much money as you can but STFU already about it. I never want to hear this sh t ever.

[Chico23231]

Kirk Cousins is the QB for the Redskins for the immediate future. There is zero doubt about it folks. So time to move on

[warriorzpath]

And especially the day after the stinker of a game with the Giants. Crying about how much he's worth. Please. You're going to get overpaid. Point blank.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

And especially the day after the stinker of a game with the Giants. Crying about how much he's worth. Please. You're going to get overpaid. Point blank.

talk about crying, heh?

But seriously...and this is for everyone having second thoughts or straight up "hatting" on Cousins: What is our other option at QB? Hoyer? Cutler, Kaperneck? Terrible draft QB class folks...

Do we understand also that if that Cousins hit the free agent market that possibly up to 1/3 of the league would inquire and possibly offer Cousins a contract?

Also Cousins would be head & tails the free agent in the class...he would be on a tier by himself...seriously.
Top Free Agents:

1. Cousins
















2. Short DT Carolina
3. Eric Berry FS KC
4. Hands-Free JPP DE Vigiants

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

talk about crying, heh?



But seriously...and this is for everyone having second thoughts or straight up "hatting" on Cousins: What is our other option at QB? Hoyer? Cutler, Kaperneck? Terrible draft QB class folks...



Do we understand also that if that Cousins hit the free agent market that possibly up to 1/3 of the league would inquire and possibly offer Cousins a contract?



Also Cousins would be head & tails the free agent in the class...he would be on a tier by himself...seriously.

Top Free Agents:



1. Cousins

































2. Short DT Carolina

3. Eric Berry FS KC

4. Hands-Free JPP DE Vigiants

So you're defending his bitching but you're calling out mine. Okay....Because he needs you to defend him because - again- life is so hard for him.

I didn't even read your other points. Did you read mine. I said - get paid - but I don't want to hear these complaints about getting paid anymore.

[warriorzpath]

It's like hearing about someone's life being hard because his Lamborghini's in the shop.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

So you're defending his bitching but you're calling out mine. Okay....Because he needs you to defend him because - again- life is so hard for him.

I didn't even read your other points. Did you read mine. I said - get paid - but I don't want to hear these complaints about getting paid anymore.

Perhaps it's because you did it in three posts in a row. We get it. OK?

FWIW, I also have no sympathy for rich people who cry about not getting enough money. It's self-centered and, I think, unseemly.

[warriorzpath]

And there's all of these numerous posts of nonsense. I get it too.

[KI Skins Fan]

OK, let's forget about the posturing on both sides about a long-term deal for Kirk Cousins and try to look at this from a purely business perspective.

If media reports are to be believed, the Redskins would like to get Kirk's signature on a deal structured similarly to the ones signed by Colin Kaepernick and Andy Dalton. Supposedly, the annual salary amount is not a sticking point.

Both Kaep and Dalton are signed for five years and the thing that stands out among their contract terms is that they are both within the bottom three of all NFL QB's in the percentage of their total contract amounts that are guaranteed. Kaep's guarantee is $13M which is 11.4% of his total contract. Dalton is guaranteed $17M which is 17.7% of his total contract. Only Tyrod Taylor has a lower percentage of his total contract guaranteed at 10.6% which is $9M. Another thing that these three contracts have in common is that the guaranteed amount for each of these is approximately one year's worth of salary. That means that these players could be cut today and their teams would owe them next to nothing in salary. By comparison, a typical NFL QB guarantee is about 40% of the total contract amount.

Let's assume that the Redskins would like to sign Kirk to a five year contract at $20M per season, with a total contract amount of $100M. That salary may be fine with Kirk and his agent. But, if the Redskins want to guarantee him a percentage of that contract near the bottom of what his peers are receiving, Kirk's agent would have to be incompetent to let that happen. For example if the Redskins were, in their own minds, generous and offered him a 20% guarantee, then the total amount guaranteed would be $20M. Well, that just doesn't work for Kirk's side because he could receive $24M fully guaranteed just by refusing to sign a long-term deal and accepting the Franchise Tag in 2017.

If, as I suspect, the total amount guaranteed is the hang-up in negotiations, then the Redskins are probably going to need to offer a guarantee closer to 40% to get his signature on a long-term contract.

None of this is about greed on one side or cheapness on the other side. It is about business in the NFL.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

It's like hearing about someone's life being hard because his Lamborghini's in the shop.

Well if its your only ride and you got be to work that day. I can see that being a problem.

[skinsfaninok]

Who else we gonna get? AJ MCCARON?? No thank u

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[rocnrik]

Cousins is the Skins QB ..no doubt! However He needs to understand That he has not been done wrong by the Skins. he got paid 20 million dollars this year and will become one of the highest paid QB in the next 2 years. so what is his gripe?? That tone in his voice about not being respected ..give me a break. We have seen what happens when teams mortgage the future on a QB that does not pan out. I agree 100% on what the skins did with the tag last year. do you guys believe that next years offense will have the players that we had the last 2 years? we are going to lose D JAX and maybe more. We have to get a running game to take pressure off cousins..that means O line upgrades..maybe RB. Dak prescott without a running game would not be nearly as good. bottom line is this..

priorities #1 sign Cousins #2 Get much better on the D free agency & draft #3 find Running game ( Need O line upgrades and maybe scheme change) between draft & Free agency we could be looking at 10-12 new players .. A huge factor is Can Doctson be the stud WR , Can Cravens become a Solid DB, can Reed stay healthy , can Trent not get suspended again..a lot of ifs..