Massive quake hits Japan; Tsunami in Pacific, nations on alert

[mlmpetert]

Wow, never knew the Aflac duck was Gilbert? Its seems like they could pay a guy a lot less that can make a simular Aflac quak....


Also:

You Can Stop Worrying About A Radiation Disaster In Japan -- Here's Why

^it looks like its a long ass artical but there are a ton of comments on the webpage that make scroll curser realy small. Its prob a 10min read

[firstdown]

I like taking business from Aflac so maybe this will help me some.

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Before and after: Earthquake rocks Japan

Before and after pictures. Use slider on the photos to see the differences.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Wow, never knew the Aflac duck was Gilbert? Its seems like they could pay a guy a lot less that can make a simular Aflac quak....


Also:

You Can Stop Worrying About A Radiation Disaster In Japan -- Here's Why

^it looks like its a long ass artical but there are a ton of comments on the webpage that make scroll curser realy small. Its prob a 10min read

What a fraud!Debunking a viral blog post on the nuke threat - War Room - Salon.com

[MTK]

So much for not worrying eh?

Meltdown 101: Why is Fukushima crisis still out of control? - CSMonitor.com

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Angry

What a fraud!Debunking a viral blog post on the nuke threat - War Room - Salon.com

Salon.com is a very liberal "news" tabloid. Ive heard that a lot of liberals (especially the hardcore San Francisco types like salon.com) are against nuclear energy. The author doesnt "debunk" anything the MIT guy wrote about..... whatsoever.

So much for not worrying eh?

Meltdown 101: Why is Fukushima crisis still out of control? - CSMonitor.com

This article doesnt really reveal anything new at all. The MIT guy that originally sent a email to friends and family in Japan basically said that the worst case scenario isnt likely to happen, and if it does its really not that bad anyways. I think most people expect this whole crisis to take some time; a small ass piece of nuclear fuel can light a whole city, so im sure it doesnt just turn off all that easy.

Unfortunately the media over sensationalizes things, especially things that can become political. Nuclear energy is debated because the potential consequences of what can happen when handled irresponsible IS devastating. Its also true that any ole guy can put something on the www and it goes viral with people taking it as face value without any real proof. Im not pro-nuclear or anti-nuclear, ive never really thought about it in depth, but like everyone else im REALLY hoping this guy knows as much as he thinks he does........

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Salon.com is a very liberal "news" tabloid. Ive heard that a lot of liberals (especially the hardcore San Francisco types like salon.com) are against nuclear energy. The author doesnt "debunk" anything the MIT guy wrote about..... whatsoever.




This article doesnt really reveal anything new at all. The MIT guy that originally sent a email to friends and family in Japan basically said that the worst case scenario isnt likely to happen, and if it does its really not that bad anyways. I think most people expect this whole crisis to take some time, as small ass piece of nuclear fuel can light a whole city, im sure it doesnt just turn off all that easy.

Unfortunately the media over sensationalizes things, especially things that can become political. Nuclear energy is debated because the potential consequences of what can happen when handled irresponsible IS devastating. Its also true that any ole guy can put something on the www and it goes viral with people taking it as face value without any real proof. Im not pro-nuclear or anti-nuclear, ive never really thought about it in depth, but like everyone else im REALLY hoping this guy knows as much as he thinks he does........

After he sent the email he posted it on an MIT blog and then falsely played the ethos card by allowing everyone to believe that he is an expert on the subject simply by putting

written by Josef Oehmen, a research scientist at MIT

in with the blog. This page, whether they have an agenda or not did point out two facts that totally discredit this PHD's "expertise" on the situation.

1. They point out that he is in fact not a Nuclear Scientist or a Physicist which is what the premise of his whole argument was. If it wasn't his intent then, why did he have to play the "MIT PHD" card?

2. They point out that the people who run the blog had to put a disclaimer out there stating that

"Note that the title of the original blog does not reflect the views of the authors of the site."

Furthermore, I would like to point out that several qualified experts on the subject such as Japanese Physicists and nuclear scientists stated just today that the amount of radiation that seeped out of the number 3 reactor durring a one hour surge was 800 times the amount that is acceptable for human contact in a day. The Japanese government has ordered everyone within 18 miles of the plant to stay indoors and make their homes air tight.
Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant - CharlotteObserver.com

I'd say that there is substantial evidence to debunk your "Risk Management Scientist".

[KLHJ2]

Loyalty

Dog in Japan stays by the side of its ailing friend in the rubble - Yahoo! News

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Originally Posted by Angry

Loyalty

Dog in Japan stays by the side of its ailing friend in the rubble - Yahoo! News

I was just about to post this. Amazing story and I'm glad to hear that both dogs got rescued.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

To Merry White, an anthropology professor at Boston University who studies Japanese culture , the real question is why looting and disorder exist in American society. She attributes it largely to social alienation and class gaps.

"There IS some alienation and indeed some class gaps in Japan too but violence, and taking what belongs to others, are simply not culturally approved or supported," White said in an e-mail.

Orderly disaster reaction in line with deep cultural roots – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

Different social values? Yes. The Japanese do value the "good of the group" more than just the individual.

No Class gaps? I'm a little skeptical about that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Different social values? Yes. The Japanese do value the "good of the group" more than just the individual.

No Class gaps? I'm a little skeptical about that.

She didn't say no class gaps:

"There IS some alienation and indeed some class gaps in Japan too but violence, and taking what belongs to others, are simply not culturally approved or supported," White said in an e-mail.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Salon.com is a very liberal "news" tabloid. Ive heard that a lot of liberals (especially the hardcore San Francisco types like salon.com) are against nuclear energy. The author doesnt "debunk" anything the MIT guy wrote about..... whatsoever.

No need to debunk a source that isn't credible enough to be commenting in the first place.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The small tremors are easily overlooked and forgotten. The more midsized tremors are frightening although much less common.

The sushi is so f&^%ing awesome that it is difficult to describe. Totally fresh, full of flavor, melts in your mouth. It is much better than the vast majority of American sushi because most Americans are not the sticklers for freshness that Japanese folks are.

I'll never forget being in a sushi bar with my American girlfriend. I ordered some shrimp. The cook chopped off the head of a live shrimp and placed the rest before me on a plate, body still wiggling. My girlfriend screamed a bit. I relished the totally fresh flavor. Most Japanese sushi is not THAT fresh but the story gives a sense of the emphasis on freshness.

Ditto your thoughts on Japan and the people. I felt my only earthquake tremors there....and again agree, the mid-size ones are no fun. I'm not a big fan of sushi, but loved the Udon, had my only shark steak (excellent), and miss the "grill at your table" buffet places. I was there for three years back in 86-88 (Yokota AB), I think you may have mentioned before, but when were you there?

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Angry

Loyalty

Dog in Japan stays by the side of its ailing friend in the rubble - Yahoo! News

About 15 years ago, my family had 2 huskies, Jared and Kia. As all huskies, they loved to run, be in the wild and just plain run away from you if your not paying close attention. Jared would hide behind a tree, with his head peeking out from one side of the tree and his tail stickiing out from the other side of the tree trying to hide from you when you would be calling them to come in. A very smart dog to know to hide even though it was funny as hell b/c you could see him behind the tree. Hed even put his head down trying to be covert. Kia was just a bitch, she would run from you right in front of your face.

On the morning of my older brothers wedding, an out-of-town relative opened the door to our home and the dogs ran out and into the woods like they've done a hundred times before. Since it was the wedding day, no one could go look for them. The next morning they still hadnt come home. My mom went in one car, I went in another and we looked in the usual places.

After a few hours my mom comes home trying not to cry. She said she found the dogs, Kia had been hit by a car and she crawled to an open field and died. My mom said when she found them, Jared was right by Kia's side.

When Jared was old and dying, I moved back home from San Diego to be with him for his last few months. The night before Jared passed away, I spent the night sleeping next to him on my parents kitchen floor. I woke up to him dead, getting pretty stiff with his tongue hanging out. I closed his eyes, put him in a big plastic bin and buried him in our backyard next to Kia.

Hemmingway says it best, "after all my life experiences Ive learned one thing, life goes on.". on something like that.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Angry

After he sent the email he posted it on an MIT blog and then falsely played the ethos card by allowing everyone to believe that he is an expert on the subject simply by putting in with the blog. This page, whether they have an agenda or not did point out two facts that totally discredit this PHD's "expertise" on the situation.

1. They point out that he is in fact not a Nuclear Scientist or a Physicist which is what the premise of his whole argument was. If it wasn't his intent then, why did he have to play the "MIT PHD" card?

2. They point out that the people who run the blog had to put a disclaimer out there stating that

Furthermore, I would like to point out that several qualified experts on the subject such as Japanese Physicists and nuclear scientists stated just today that the amount of radiation that seeped out of the number 3 reactor durring a one hour surge was 800 times the amount that is acceptable for human contact in a day. The Japanese government has ordered everyone within 18 miles of the plant to stay indoors and make their homes air tight.
Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant - CharlotteObserver.com

I'd say that there is substantial evidence to debunk your "Risk Management Scientist".

The problem is that this was originally a email sent out to friends and family and then got posted on a MIT message board (by a family member). Im sure his friends and family knew he wasnt a nuclear engineer. When i originally read it, i didnt get the impression that he was definitely a nuclear engineer, but rather that he just really knew what was going on. I know that GMscud doesnt work for the Redskins as their salary cap numbers guy, but i do know he knows his stuff when it comes to the Redskins salary cap. Sometimes people have an inexplicable interest in stuff that most people have no desire to learn or understand in depth. Their thoughts however can provide great insight when debating a potential FA signing or wondering if the people in Northern Japan are about to become nuclear stir fry…..

And yeah, 800x the amount of radiation that’s safe amount for humans got released, but the originally email/blog from “Dr.” (phd) Oehmen said that radiation was going to get released, but the kind that does also happens to break down extremely fast. It seems like the MIT community is sticking behind this guy to some degree. It doesn’t seem like anyone else out there is really offering detailed information on whats going to happen and whats the likelihood. I definitely don’t trust the headlines from Yahoo! or Fox News to tell me the nitty gritty of whats going on, but I count on them to tell me the scary details of whats currently happening.

For me personally I find that I connect and empathize with the people from certain countries more so then others because our identities seem more similar. Japan for me is number 1 or 2 on my list. An earthquake and tsunami over there almost feels like its happening on the otherside of the country here. Maybe im reading this email/blog and just hoping for the best…..


Also the Phd's (in business) response to all the attention:

I am a mechanical engineer and research scientist at MIT. I am not a nuclear engineer or scientist, or affiliated with Nuclear Science and Engineering at MIT, so please feel free to question my competence. The text is based on an email that I send to family and friends in Japan the night of March 12. It was posted on this blog by my cousin Jason, went viral and has been equally popular with people who hate it and love it ever since. It aimed at explaining the events surrounding the Fukushima Daiichi-1 reactor. Great lengths of the text are dedicated to explaining how the reactor works, what the different types of radiation sources are, and what safety features have been implemented. I then continue to describe how these safety features were operated to secure the reactor. To the extent that I could, I have verified this information with experts in the field, while the responsibility for any errors remains with me. The version on mitnse.com is the most accurate, and as you can tell in many parts different to the version that appeared here on Jason’s blog. This post is not keeping track of or explaining events after Mar 12. Events kept developing, and many people keep sharing their discovery with me that one is always smarter after the fact.

In my email, preserved through various copies of Jason’s first post around the internet, I expressed my strong believe that my family and friends are safe. This keeps both annoying and reassuring a great many people. Whether my unwavering trust in my fellow engineers of 50 years ago who designed and build the plant, or my complete trust and admiration of my fellow engineers who are currently operating the reactors makes me a level-headed guy or right-out stupid is also hotly debated. Most people hope for the former, but some opt for the latter.

As far as I am concerned, I was just doing my job. Fixing things. In this case, a complete lack of understandable context information that would have allowed my family and friends in Japan to make an informed assessment of their situation.

Why I am not worried about Japan’s nuclear reactors. | Morgsatlarge – blogorific.