I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

[diehardskin2982]

On the other hand, what if we traded down and picked up Ben Jones, Mike Adams, Micheal Flyod, and Jamell Fleming. Then added a Qb through free agency?

[irish]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

On the other hand, what if we traded down and picked up Ben Jones, Mike Adams, Micheal Flyod, and Jamell Fleming. Then added a Qb through free agency?

Interesting idea and I think a good one. Kyle Shannahan was on the Andy Sheehan/Thom Loverro show in DC on Friday and he said there was no way the Skins were going to give away the farm to get a QB. He said QB was one of many holes the Skins need to fill. It sounds like he thinks the team really needs a few playmakers. His most telling stat to this point was the number of passes thrown by the QB and run in for a TD was zero.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by irish

Interesting idea and I think a good one. Kyle Shannahan was on the Andy Sheehan/Thom Loverro show in DC on Friday and he said there was no way the Skins were going to give away the farm to get a QB. He said QB was one of many holes the Skins need to fill. It sounds like he thinks the team really needs a few playmakers. His most telling stat to this point was the number of passes thrown by the QB and run in for a TD was zero.

Well.. we had two.. Helu screen/hurdle.. and Banks to Moss.. then again Banks isn't a "QB" and Helu isn't a WR... either way it's sad though

[celts32]

It amazes me how many Redskins fans are still willing to roll the dice on yet another free agent QB band-aid. When is enough enough?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by celts32

it amazes me how many redskins fans are still willing to roll the dice on yet another free agent qb band-aid. When is enough enough?

2016??

[irish]

Originally Posted by celts32

It amazes me how many Redskins fans are still willing to roll the dice on yet another free agent QB band-aid. When is enough enough?

It amazes me how many fans are willing to give away the store for the opportunity to roll the dice on a QB that has never played a down in the pros. Brett Favre was a heck of a band-aid for GB. I wonder if the Saints think Drew Brees is a band-aid. I wonder if the Eagles think Vick is a band-aid.

I never got the impression the Skins let BJ walk, it seemed to me they told him to take a hike when they brought in Jeff George.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by irish

It amazes me how many fans are willing to give away the store for the opportunity to roll the dice on a QB that has never played a down in the pros.

I never got the impression the Skins let BJ walk, it seemed to me they told him to take a hike when they brought in Jeff George.

The teams that win consistently are the ones with the great QB's. For the most part these QB's go at the top of the draft. The list of Tom Brady late round QB success stories or Drew Brees free agent jackpots are very short ones. Any thing is a gamble but in this case Luck is said to be the best prospect since Elway and Bradford was a #1 overall pick just 2 years ago who Shanny is on record saying he loved and reportedly tried to get in the draft. I will put my eggs in either of those baskets. If you don't have a QB you have NOTHING...

[irish]

Originally Posted by celts32

The teams that win consistently are the ones with the great QB's. For the most part these QB's go at the top of the draft. The list of Tom Brady late round QB success stories or Drew Brees free agent jackpots are very short ones. Any thing is a gamble but in this case Luck is said to be the best prospect since Elway and Bradford was a #1 overall pick just 2 years ago who Shanny is on record saying he loved and reportedly tried to get in the draft. I will put my eggs in either of those baskets. If you don't have a QB you have NOTHING...

I agree, you gotta have a QB. You also have to have people who can do something with the ball after he throws it to them, the Skins dont have that either. If they can get Luck or Bradford for a reasonable price than I say do it.

I also dont have a problem with trading Orakpo as part of this because you have to trade value to get value.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree, you gotta have a QB. You also have to have people who can do something with the ball after he throws it to them, the Skins dont have that either. If they can get Luck or Bradford for a reasonable price than I say do it.

I also dont have a problem with trading Orakpo as part of this because you have to trade value to get value.

There is almost no price I wouldn't pay for Luck...for Bradford I would expect to pay a little less since last season had to hurt his value somewhat.

I do agree that we probably need a true #1 WR...but as I keep saying I don't think it's fair to draw any conclusions overall on what we have at WR in light of our awful QB play. WR in general with very few exceptions are a product of the QB and the efficiency of the overall offense. Look at the Colts WR production without Manning. And does anyone really think if Jordy Nelson were a Redskin last year he would have been productive? No...he would have been about as productive as Niles Paul was...

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by irish

I never got the impression the Skins let BJ walk, it seemed to me they told him to take a hike when they brought in Jeff George.

I think this sums up most Skins personnel decisions since JKC's death. In his one full starting season here, Johnson threw for over 4000 yards and had a qb rating of 90. But he wasn't a "franchise qb" so he was kicked to the curb for a sexy former number 1 overall pick. Johnson went on to win a Super Bowl and the Skins keep cycling through qb's.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by rypper11

I think this sums up most Skins personnel decisions since JKC's death. In his one full starting season here, Johnson threw for over 4000 yards and had a qb rating of 90. But he wasn't a "franchise qb" so he was kicked to the curb for a sexy former number 1 overall pick. Johnson went on to win a Super Bowl and the Skins keep cycling through qb's.

Brad Johnson choked in the playoffs and the attention was turned to Jeff George the gunslinger.

[irish]

Originally Posted by diehard

Brad Johnson choked in the playoffs and the attention was turned to Jeff George the gunslinger.

Jeff George - million dollar arm, ten-cent head.

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by diehard

Brad Johnson choked in the playoffs and the attention was turned to Jeff George the gunslinger.

Dan Turk and Brett Conway choked in the playoffs. Johnson and Davis put us in position to win.

[redskinjim]

Originally Posted by irish

It amazes me how many fans are willing to give away the store for the opportunity to roll the dice on a QB that has never played a down in the pros. Brett Favre was a heck of a band-aid for GB. I wonder if the Saints think Drew Brees is a band-aid. I wonder if the Eagles think Vick is a band-aid.

I never got the impression the Skins let BJ walk, it seemed to me they told him to take a hike when they brought in Jeff George.

danny boy threw brad out he was in love with jeff georges arm strength

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by celts32

It amazes me how many Redskins fans are still willing to roll the dice on yet another free agent QB band-aid. When is enough enough?

Enough was enough some time ago. I agree that we need to stop shopping for QB's at K-Mart and go to Bloomingdale's instead.