Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career

[diehardskin2982]

I read that article in the times and it seemed Lavar was trying to say that if he was going to be cut or traded, he would retire becaue all he wants to do is be a redskin. Only in the rare exception of a team like the charger maybe he'd play otherwise he could do other thing outside of playing football, if he can't be a skin.

[xtrm92000]

I to am a big Lavar fan. as well as my brother and daughter.I would hate to see him go. But come on forget about misquotes. LET'S GET PHILLY. can anyone say sweep.

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by xtrm92000

I to am a big Lavar fan. as well as my brother and daughter.I would hate to see him go. But come on forget about misquotes. LET'S GET PHILLY. can anyone say sweep.

:cheeky-sm :thumb: :tongue :headbange :headbange

[Dirtbag]

Lavar is our modern-day Dexter, minus the coke habit. Great physical talent, but so, so dumb sometimes.

[xtrm92000]

Thanks for the welcome --- BigSKINBauer

[xtrm92000]

I think Lavar handeled the whole situation, injury, benched, money issues, with a lot of class. It could have been way worse like some of these other whiners (Quiffshan Johnson and Terrible Owens) both huge whinners.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I don't think Snyder has anything to do with our current victories other than the fact that he brought back Gibbs. Now that Snyder has brought him back, he should stay away from Redskins' Park. Does anyone actually think that Snyder is a good owner? The guy is a grade A prick who is hated by players, former staff, league observers, and me. He's tarnished our franchise's reputation by alienating just about everyone.

[BigSKINBauer]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...901331_pf.html

A Dishonorable Discharge

By Mike Wise
Friday, December 30, 2005; E01



What in all likelihood was LaVar Arrington's last day in the home locker room after a regular season game at FedEx Field featured an ugly shouting match in the training room with his position coach, Dale Lindsey. Arrington had grown tired of Lindsey, the linebackers coach, calling him from upstairs in the booth, berating him for missed assignments in a victory over the New York Giants last Saturday.

He finally hung up on Lindsey, and the feud carried over into the locker room, growing more profane and personal. It ended with Arrington telling Lindsey to "Back off!" and "Treat me like a man!" According to two persons privy to the altercation, the coach went a tad more overboard than the player.

"I was thinking, 'Enough already,' " said one player, on condition of anonymity. "Let LaVar be."

What a fitting send-off for Arrington, the guy who carried Daniel Snyder's banner during the lean years. Beautiful. Way to emotionally beat down a proud, sentimental veteran whose only real character flaw was that he stubbornly believed enough in this organization to want to retire here.

This town is a win from going absolutely ga-ga over Joe Gibbs's team again. Beat the Eagles on Sunday and Gibbs secures a postseason berth for Washington for the first time since 1999. "Ten and six" must sound so much better than 6-10 to the true zealot. What a phenomenal, 12-month turnabout that would be.

But let's not forget the marginalization of Arrington, the franchise's most popular player of the new millennium. The spin being put out on Arrington's latest comments is frankly amazing. Many are ripping the guy who told the Washington Times this week that management didn't want him, that he was most likely done in Washington. People are treating Arrington as if he were a T.O. clone, creating controversy, stirring the pot on the brink of the franchise's most important game in years.

No one is talking about how in two humiliating years, Mr. Redskin was callously turned into Mr. Irrelevant.

Hampered by injury and the lack of confidence his coaches have in him, Arrington rarely plays on third and fourth downs anymore. On many Sunday afternoons, when the opposing offense is facing a third and long, Arrington sits. Never mind that he is bigger and faster than Fred Dean was lining up at defensive end for the great 49ers teams of the 1980s, Arrington's pass-rushing skills are somehow deemed too insignificant to help a blitzing, aggressive defense.

When Arrington is given a fair amount of snaps, the masses are informed that it has nothing to do with Arrington playing the way that earned him two Pro Bowl selections. No, they say LaVar got religion, believed in the principles of defensive coach Gregg Williams's system, finally put in the rehab and film time needed to be rewarded with more playing opportunities.

Arrington was asked about a moment he thought his career changed in Washington. He was reminded of a Wizards game last season. His face was flashed on the overhead video scoreboard and was greeted by intermittent boos. He was taking the heat for his team's dismal season. After the game, Arrington waited patiently as the crowd filed out. He had arranged to get a pair of signed shoes from a visiting NBA player. MCI Center security guards would not let him back near the locker rooms. The most popular athlete in town was treated like a deranged fan demanding to be let in the locker room for an autograph.

Arrington got angry and emotional before his future wife calmed him down. The next day, he canceled his season tickets. Was his love affair with Washington already dying?

"No, the town never turned on me," he said, sitting in front of his locker at the team's practice facility in Ashburn on Wednesday. "They were always behind me. It was individuals. That's all I'm going to say."

He won't say who, but we already know where and with whom the enmity began. Snyder, the team owner who made him fabulously rich and befriended his charismatic, handsome linebacking star, dumped him quicker than AOL stock. From the moment Arrington filed a contract grievance in March 2004, contending the team omitted $6.5 million in bonus money agreed upon for the 2006 season, he was shuttled out of Snyder' suite and sent to the doghouse. The Redskins said they did not owe Arrington the money, and the linebacker eventually dropped the arbitration case.

But with Snyder no longer in his corner, it became open season on Arrington for the coaching staff.

When Arrington was hardly playing in late September and early October this season, he saw Snyder in a hallway and was about to offer some pleasantries. "Don't talk to me," the owner said, according to a person who saw the encounter. "I didn't have anything to do with this."

When Gibbs and his coaching staff took over the team two years ago, they did not consider Arrington to be part of the solution to the franchise's woes; they saw him as another impediment. They believed Arrington could not curb his individualism for the good of the team. They never got around the perception that he could not fit in. They saw Arrington as a nuisance -- a high-maintenance, high-salaried star who could never live up to his Pro Bowl aura or reputation.

As effective and bright as the team's coaches are, they decided who Arrington was and what he was about before they gave him a chance to see what he could become. And when he finally showed them his worth, his body betrayed him again. He played only two full games last season and missed 12 games with a bone bruise.

The injury cost Arrington a shot at proving his worth to Williams and his staff. They moved on and inserted lesser-known players, and the defense turned in one of its best years in recent memory. Returning from offseason knee surgery robbed him of his explosiveness this season. He wasn't their cup of tea to begin with, and his ailments made it that much easier to cast him aside.

Arrington's representatives asked that they be allowed to speak with other teams about a possible trade early this season, but were rebuffed both times. Now, it wouldn't be a surprise if the team waited until mid-July to cut him, after every other franchise has run out of salary-cap room.

Was Arrington also to blame for this pending divorce between player and team? No doubt. He is an emotionally deep, feeling person. If he was being honest with himself, Arrington would admit he took things too personally, internalized every slight, felt his loyalty and accomplishments before Gibbs was hired were completely overlooked by the new regime.

He hated the perception that he was only a freelancing, headhunter, unable to coexist in a defense built on elaborate schemes that demands on-field discipline from its players. It made him look book-smart and system-dumb.

But when your face stops appearing in the team's marketing campaigns, when they don't restock your jersey in the team store until the demand becomes overwhelming, when the assistant gets in your face like you're the walk-on, the writing is on the wall.

Crazy, no? Most people in the organization believe they learned to win without Arrington. They have no idea that they won in spite of how they treated him.

[mooby]

I am a huge lavar fan, but there are several things i can agree with about the lavar haters. For one, he needs to keep his mouth shut, and handle this behind closed doors. For me, i just want to see both sides make a compromise and see Lavar finish his career as a redskin.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Despite the horrible way this franchise is run, we're 9-6 and about to clinch a playoff spot.

Amazing. How did this team manage to do that in spite of our horrible owner?? It boggles my mind.

Before you jump all over me I see you prefaced your argument by adding that "Joe seems to have stopped the bleeding".

Well damn, if this is what stopping the bleeding is all about, I sure am all for it!!

Again.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...901331_pf.html

A Dishonorable Discharge

By Mike Wise
Friday, December 30, 2005; E01

Gosh that's a sad article. Sure, Lavar isn't some completely innocent little child in all of this, but it sure sounds like a guy who really believed in and loved the Redskins organization only to be tossed aside.

I'm glad he has some perspective on life and I'm sure he'll be successful after football. It's quite a testament to his love for the organization that he will pretty much retire before playing anywhere else.

Yes, I know, the team is more than just one guy. But it sure is sad seeing one good player after another getting cast aside like trash.

The team IS more than the individual player, but it shouldn't be at the expense of the individual.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Again.

Again what?

You post and someone responds, amazing concept this message board stuff, huh?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Gosh that's a sad article. Sure, Lavar isn't some completely innocent little child in all of this, but it sure sounds like a guy who really believed in and loved the Redskins organization only to be tossed aside.

I'm glad he has some perspective on life and I'm sure he'll be successful after football. It's quite a testament to his love for the organization that he will pretty much retire before playing anywhere else.

Yes, I know, the team is more than just one guy. But it sure is sad seeing one good player after another getting cast aside like trash.

The team IS more than the individual player, but it shouldn't be at the expense of the individual.

I can see both sides of it, but in the end I don't feel very sorry for LaVar.

That's life in the NFL. It's a business first and foremost. Teams cut ties with their stars and move on all the time. I wonder if LaVar is mentally tough enough and that's why the coaches are so hard on him.

From the sound of it, this defensive staff is very demanding. They're obviously looking for certain kinds of players, and perhaps they're pushing LaVar to see how he responds and to see if he can be their kind of guy.

Sadly it appears he's simply not their kind of guy. LaVar needs a certain level of nurturing and coddling, and that's simply not going to happen from the likes of Williams, Blache & Lindsey.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I can see both sides of it, but in the end I don't feel very sorry for LaVar.

That's life in the NFL. It's a business first and foremost. Teams cut ties with their stars and move on all the time. I wonder if LaVar is mentally tough enough and that's why the coaches are so hard on him.

From the sound of it, this defensive staff is very demanding. They're obviously looking for certain kinds of players, and perhaps they're pushing LaVar to see how he responds and to see if he can be their kind of guy.

Sadly it appears he's simply not their kind of guy. LaVar needs a certain level of nurturing and coddling, and that's simply not going to happen from the likes of Williams, Blache & Lindsey.

The more this story unravels, it seems the emotions of Lavar got the best of him again. I don't think it is coincidence that Lavar goes off and spurts his mouth off after he gets jumped on by Lindsey. It now does not surprise me that the media jumped at the opportunity to interview Lavar this week after catching wind of the confrontation, it hasn't failed the media yet this year knowing when to ask Lavar those critical questions about the prganization right after he is sent to the naughty chair. What was I thinking Lavar the coach should not get on you about missing assignments, you are Mr. Redskin and the fans love you. I love Lavar as well, but his belief and emotions as to what should be said to him or he should be handled different because he has been here for a while, he needs to act like a man if he wants to be treated like a man and stop crying to the media.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

From the sound of it, this defensive staff is very demanding. They're obviously looking for certain kinds of players, and perhaps they're pushing LaVar to see how he responds and to see if he can be their kind of guy.

Sadly it appears he's simply not their kind of guy. LaVar needs a certain level of nurturing and coddling, and that's simply not going to happen from the likes of Williams, Blache & Lindsey.

I doubt very seriously that LaVar needs any kind of coddling to perform. There's a huge gap between coddling and berating. And they're not trying to push LaVar to see how he responds, they're pushing him out the door.