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In this day and age, with the league structured the way it currently is, I just don't think you can do that. Whether we're a team that needs to be blown up and rebuilt from the foundation up, or if we're a team on the verge that's just a player or two away, there needs to be a coach here with experience, and a track record of sustained success. I just don't think you can afford to bring Zorn back and hope that he's the guy who can do that. |
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But it's as you say, the way the league is constructed today where coaches are concerned, patience is a lost virture, it has come to win now at all cost and I'm not so sure in all cases that should be a mandated expectation. Remember, the more things change, the more they stay the same. You do express an interesting point of view however. |
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Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal
talking to a good friend of mine, who is also a big time raiders fan. he said one of Shanahan's best attributes is his game day coaching. as a coach, i dont know much about him, other then they were always competitive, as far as the playoffs
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Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal
Marty turned things around & he got the axe. Now Zorn & his staff have the Skins playing well & now they will be fired too.
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Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal
Marty was 8-8. Zorn has won 4 games this season. it might be good enough for you. but i want more
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Zorn went 6-2 and then went 2-6 to end up 8-8. He got worse the second half of the year. Most likely due to injuries. If so one would think come this season with everyone healthy he starts out great but we didn't. He got worse. It took Sherm Lewis to come in and fix what Zorn could not over a 16 game span. I took Sherm Lewis 3 games to get the Skins scoring over 30 points. If Zorn stays he needs to go back to what he does best....coach QB's. Will he take a demotion? I'm betting not. I would love for him to stay, take the demotion, and keep his pay he has now since we will be paying him anyway unless he resigns. Speaking of because he is still under contract for one more year could DS tell Zorn he is demoting him to QB coach? I would imagine Zorn would say no way and resign but if he didn't we would have a good QB coach. I personally think Holmgren is going to take the Browns job and probably take Zorn with him in some type of capacity to help train him for he future. Just my personal feeling. |
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Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal
[quote=Longtimefan;642407]There were not many who found a great deal of fault in Zorn when his record was 6-2. You stay in or fall out of favor through your won and loss record. I agree with skinsfan69, you win with palyers not coaches. It too easy to lay the blame for losing on one person, if it were that simple it would be oh so easy to fix.[/quote]
Um, It was. I pointed it out. Sherm Lewis came in and watched for one game then had us scoring over 20 points for 2 games the has had us scoring over 30 points the last 2 games. Your right ...you are what your record says you are, and Zorn has shown he could not fix the problem, he could not re-evaluate his scheme to his players abilities, to him it was all about the players not "executing" his plays or game plan right. It's pretty obvious who solved the riddle of how to get the team playing like they are now. I'm just supprised at all the love of wanting everyone to keep him as HC when he's proven not to get the job done. I heard on the radio the other day that Sherm Lewis is actually calling the run plays to to an extent. He calls the pass plays and when he wants a run play he calls down to Sherm Smith and tells him what type of run play he wants sent in. Basically calling a type of run play that gives JC an option out of if the defense picks up that its a run and gives JC another option...a pass play. I keep hearing how Zorn's plays were limited to simply running the play sent in. Without an option a lot of the plays didn't go anywhere. Now why would it take someone outside of the team to figure this out and fix the problem? Why couldn't Zorn figure this out? I like Zorn and hope if he doesn't work out here perhaps as QB coach (which I doubt happens) he gets another job elsewhere. I think he's a great QB coach. |
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What seperated Gibbs' 0-5 start from that of Marty Schottenheimer's, Gibbs inherited a much better team. Those three HOF's (always felt Mosley) should have been a fourth contributed greatly to his success. |
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Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal
Is Shanny is in and CP is out do we look to FA for an RB or the Draft? I still think we need to use the draft to shore up the O Line.
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Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal
yes shanahan was the head coach when portis was there, and he drafted portis by the way in the second round. And just to make him look more appealing to us, he did trade portis for champ bailey and if you ask me he got the better part of that deal, cause a good running back is a lot easier to find than a shut down corner.
And I don't know what shanahan will do with portis but we have other proven backs, and a lot of running backs, even undrafed ones (mike bell of the saints now was with denver) have been able to run shanahans offense very well |
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Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal
Thanks for texting that in Smoot. So what are the chances shanahan is our next coach?
It sounds like nothing will happen until the seasons over. Three weeks is a long time for something bad to happen and screw everything up - like Dallas firing wade Phillips. Dallas worries me - franchise qb, good young running backs... And Shanahan allegedly would rather coach there. And if things do fall through, what's snyders plan b?
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